Flash Player 10 Beta Adds Linux Features

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Flash Player 10 Beta Adds Linux Features

Last month the first beta for Adobe Flash Player 10 was released for not only Windows but also Mac OS X and Linux at the same time. This beta release added new 3D effects, advanced text layout, an enhanced drawing API, and visual performance improvements, to just name a few of the many changes...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NjU2NQ

[d2kx]

On the one side, it is great to see that Adobe is serious about Linux, on the other side... it's still closed source software and to be honest I only need Flash for YouTube/Google Video, which hopefully will be using some other solution in the long-term (HTML5 video function). swfdec-mozilla already mostly works for me.... I wish Stage6.com was still online.

[VisezTrance]

No 64 bit.. A few years ago.. ok, I could play along, but in an age where having 4 gb of ram is nothing out of the ordinary, I think their commitment to linux is not that great. Frankly, I'm dissapointed - yes, I'm running a 64 bit linux distro.

[yoshi314]

4 gb of ram is nothing out of the ordinaryit's totally out of ordinary around here ;-)

[Kano]

Works much better now that the first beta. Fullscreen video is smooth now.

[Aradreth]

No 64 bit.. A few years ago.. ok, I could play along, but in an age where having 4 gb of ram is nothing out of the ordinary, I think their commitment to linux is not that great. Frankly, I'm dissapointed - yes, I'm running a 64 bit linux distro.
Honestly now I couldn't care less about them releasing flash for 64bit; gnash is coming a long nicely, although the recent build appears to have broken youtube play back. I tend to ignore sites that just have a flash version though so the lack of flash doesn't bother me as it might for others.

[Ex-Cyber]

Have they implemented the "don't sometimes hang Firefox when I close a tab/window containing Flash" feature yet, or has that been pushed back to Flash Player 11?

[M1AU]

Does anyone know if it works with compiz enabled?

[deanjo]

Does anyone know if it works with compiz enabled?

From the known issues:




For Linux, the hardware acceleration feature will not work if you are using a compositing window manager (compiz). In this case, Flash Player 10 Beta will always fall back to software. If you would like to test Flash Player 10 Beta on Linux, please disable your compositing window manager.

[some-guy]

No 64 bit.. A few years ago.. ok, I could play along, but in an age where having 4 gb of ram is nothing out of the ordinary, I think their commitment to linux is not that great. Frankly, I'm dissapointed - yes, I'm running a 64 bit linux distro.
Use nspluginwrapper, it works for all NPAPI plugins :)

[Vadi]

Ubuntu, Debian show that 64bit is 10-15% of the users only... :) so it's not that popular as you make it out to be.

(but yeah, I'm on 64bit myself)

[deanjo]

Linux WMODE — Flash Player for Linux now supports windowless mode (transparent and opaque). Windowless mode means proper blending between SWFs and the HTML above and below the SWF content.. Windowless mode on Linux requires the latest Firefox 3 to work.


Fixed, uhhuh ya right.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c316/deanjo/fixed3.jpg

[Fenix-TX]

Is there the standalone player or only plugin?

[Tares]

Same cr*p as beta1 :/ Can't even go to my beloved diablo3 webpage, crashes whole FF3 ;x although I hope they'll fix it soon, cause FP9 on linux take much more CPU than on windows :(

[MamiyaOtaru]

Ubuntu, Debian show that 64bit is 10-15% of the users only... :) so it's not that popular as you make it out to be.
Partly because of crap like Flash. That, win32 codecs, wine, etc keep people on 32 bit so stuff works. They are holding back the migration.

[deanjo]

Ubuntu, Debian show that 64bit is 10-15% of the users only... :) so it's not that popular as you make it out to be.

(but yeah, I'm on 64bit myself)

On debian that may be the case, (not surprising since they were the last to release a 64-bit release, finally debuting in 2007/04/08 vs suses 2003/04/07 ), but on other distro's that number is higher. openSUSE 11 for example on just straight ftp download was:

http://news.opensuse.org/2008/06/24/numbers/

62% openSUSE-11.0-DVD-i386.iso
28% openSUSE-11.0-DVD-x86_64.iso
3,7% openSUSE-11.0-KDE4-LiveCD-i386.iso
2,0% openSUSE-11.0-GNOME-LiveCD-i386.iso
1,2% openSUSE-11.0-KDE4-LiveCD-x86_64.iso
1,1% openSUSE-11.0-Addon-Lang-i386.iso
below 1%:
openSUSE-11.0-DVD-ppc.iso
openSUSE-11.0-GNOME-LiveCD-x86_64.iso
openSUSE-11.0-Addon-Lang-x86_64.iso
openSUSE-11.0-Addon-Lang-ppc.iso

and that is not including the torrents which was at a 60/40 split.

[greg]

There is no 64-bit Flash for Windows either. I guess Adobe is going to support that before thinking about a 64-bit Linux version. :)

@deanjo
Are you running Flash with nspluginwrapper? wmode doesn't work together with it and it's still quite unstable. Anyway, this is a beta! The progress is nice though.

[borgus]

There is no 64-bit Flash for Windows either. I guess Adobe is going to support that before thinking about a 64-bit Linux version. :)

Actually, it would make sense to make the Linux version first. 99% of apps on 64-bit Windows are still 32-bit. If you insisted on using only 64-bit apps in 64-bit Windows, at this point you'd be extremely limited. OTOH, people running 64-bit Linux run 99% 64-bit apps, with only very limited 32-bit-only holdouts (Flash being nearly alone in fact). 64-bit Flash would probably get more exposure on Linux at this point, even with its tiny marketshare. Just try to get 64-bit Firefox for Windows. (64-bit IE7 is actually easier to obtain now, sadly.)

[Kano]

64 bit java + flash does not exist as plugins - for win 64 bit therefore you have to install the 32 bit plugins - there IS a 64 bit IE but no plugins for it ;)

[deanjo]

There is no 64-bit Flash for Windows either. I guess Adobe is going to support that before thinking about a 64-bit Linux version. :)

@deanjo
Are you running Flash with nspluginwrapper? wmode doesn't work together with it and it's still quite unstable. Anyway, this is a beta! The progress is nice though.


wmode with nspluginwrapper works fine in opera 64-bit.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c316/deanjo/operaflash10.png