ATI fglrx 8.27.10 Discussion (July 2006)

[Michael]

ATI Linux fglrx 8.27.10 for x86 and x86_64 have just been released.

# X.org 7.1 Support
# Fedora Core Package Support
# X1000 TV-out support

Release Notes: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.27.10.html

Phoronix Coverage

After ATI's successful launch last month of the fglrx 8.26.18 drivers, which had delivered an external events daemon (atieventsd) and more, it is now time for us to discuss the changes in the newly released 8.27.10 Linux display drivers. Of the changes in this release include X11R7.1 support, Fedora Core packaging scripts, and Radeon X1000 TV-out support. As always, we have all of the details to share in our ATI fglrx 8.27.10 driver examination.

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=7085

Feel free to discuss, post questions, etc...

[Michael]

Also for Fedora + ATI users, please post your experience after using the --buildpkg Fedora/FC5 (or FC4 or FC3) on how the packages generated, if you ran into any problems, or have any other suggestions for those packages.

[Licaon]

Phoronix: Another awaited feature has been TV-out support with the Radeon X1k series. This support is finally here with the 8.27.10 drivers.

linuxgames.com (http://www.linuxgames.com/news/feedback.php?identiferID=8541&action=flatview) & ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Version 8.27.10 -> Resolved Issues(??): TV Out is currently not supported on the ATI Radeon? X1x00 products. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22057

so? TV Out Supported or NOT?

[Michael]

TV-out IS supported with the Radeon X1000 series using the 8.27.10 drivers. We have tested this support with at least three different X1k products so far, and it has worked perfectly thus far.

[seldom_used]

Hi, great site, appreciate the speed of posting a review of the new driver.
Curious, for tv-out on a X1800 you used s-video, right? Has anyone used component video to get hdtv resolutions?
I have tried it with 8.27.10 with no luck, but if anyone got it working it would help to know.

[Michael]

Thanks for joining the forums.

Yes, the TV-out for the X1000 series was tested using S-Video as well as in some instances using a S-Video to component adapter. However, using HDTV resolutions haven't yet been tested here with component video.

As for the Phoronix coverage coinciding with the fglrx driver releases, ATI can also be thanked for their helpful staff.

[steve]

Thanks for the review. Where do I go to download the new drivers? I can see the release notes at the url that you give, but when I go to the ati site they still offer 8.26.17 as the latest driver.

[Michael]

Hmmm that shouldn't be the case.

x86 -- https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86.run

x86_64 -- https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/64bit/ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86_64.run

[steve]

Hmmm that shouldn't be the case.

x86 -- https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86.run

x86_64 -- https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/64bit/ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86_64.run

Thanks. That works. Now I need to work out which package I have to install to build the kernel modules for Fedora 5. The script suggests kernel-devel but I've got that and it doesn't include the file /lib/modules/${kernel_variant}/build/include/linux/version.h that the script is testing for. /lib/modules/${kernel_variant}/build/ belongs to the kernel package, but it's empty.

[Michael]

Are you trying to use the automatic installer? or generating the RPMs using --buildpkg Fedora/FC5 ?

kernel and kernel-devel should be the only kernel-related packages you need.

If you're using the --buildpkg, what is the complete output.

[steve]

Are you trying to use the automatic installer? or generating the RPMs using --buildpkg Fedora/FC5 ?

kernel and kernel-devel should be the only kernel-related packages you need.

If you're using the --buildpkg, what is the complete output.

Yes, I'm using --buildpkg. The complete output is:

--------------------------------
Creating directory fglrx-install
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.27.10........................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ........................................
==================================================
ATI Technologies Linux Driver Installer/Packager
==================================================
Generating package: Fedora/FC5
Please install an appropriate Linux kernel module build package.
Probably kernel-devel in this case.
If you've compiled a custom kernel, make sure /usr/src/linux exists
and the source tree matches the currently running kernel.
-----------------------------------

I've looked in the script ati-packager.sh that generates the message,
and it is testing for /lib/modules/${kernel_variant}/build/include/linux/version.h, as I mentioned. I think the problem is that the kernel-devel package has put include/linux/version.h under /usr/src/kernels/${kernel_variant}.
I don't know whether the rest of the script actually depends on the files being under /lib/modules.

[Michael]

What specific kernel version are you using? I haven't come across such an issue with kernel-devel myself, though I will try to get an answer for you from Niko (the author of the main Fedora packaging scripts).

[Michael]

rpm -qf /lib/modules/2.6.17-1.2157_FC5/build/include/linux/version.h
returns
kernel-devel-2.6.17-1.2157_FC5

rpm -qf /lib/modules/2.6.17-1.2157_FC5/build
returns
kernel-2.6.17-1.2157_FC5

ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.17-1.2157_FC5/build
returns
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 47 Jul 15
21:59 /lib/modules/2.6.17-1.2157_FC5/build -> ../../../usr/src/kernels/2.6.17-1.2157_FC5-i686

At first glance, something's broken on his end. Or he doesn't actually have
kernel-devel installed.

Niko

Did you try reinstalling kernel-devel?

[steve]

Did you try reinstalling kernel-devel?

My problem was that my kernel and kernel-devel were out of step. When I installed kernel-devel with yum, it didn't mention that I needed to update the kernel package. The updated kernel package gives me the symlink to /lib/modules, which was missing before.

[dgvirtual]

8.27.10 supports 3d acceleration on my Radeon 9200 video card. On both 8.26 and 8.25 it was broken (had to use a patch from 8.24 driver version). I am running Kubuntu Dapper.

[kramey]

I updated my ATI drivers tonight from 8.26 to 8.27.10 and am having a strange problem. If I execute "glxinfo" as myself, it says I only have "Indirect Rendering". If I run it as su, it says I have direct rendering. If, after doing "glxinfo" as root, I run it again as myself, it still reports "Indirect Rendering". "glxgears" gives about 200 FPS as my usual userid and just over 250 FPS as root. Clearly something is not right.

The output of "uname -a":
Linux myrthin 2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 #1 Tue Aug 8 15:30:55 EDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

glxinfo as normal user:

name of display: :0.0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,
GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe, GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier,
GLX_SGIX_fbconfig
client glx vendor string: ATI
client glx version string: 1.3
client glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float,
GLX_ATI_render_texture
GLX version: 1.2
GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_ARB_multisample
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.2)
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add,
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color,
GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_texture_env_add,
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3,
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

glxinfo as root:
name of display: :0.0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,
GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe, GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier,
GLX_SGIX_fbconfig
client glx vendor string: ATI
client glx version string: 1.3
client glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float,
GLX_ATI_render_texture
GLX version: 1.2
GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_ARB_multisample
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON 9700 Generic
OpenGL version string: 2.0.5946 (8.27.10)
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array,
GL_S3_s3tc, GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_fragment_program,
GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow, GL_ARB_fragment_shader,
GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_occlusion_query, GL_ARB_point_parameters,
GL_ARB_point_sprite, GL_ARB_shader_objects, GL_ARB_shading_language_100,
GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_shadow_ambient, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map,
GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine,
GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix,
GL_ARB_vertex_blend, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, GL_ARB_vertex_program,
GL_ARB_vertex_shader, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_ARB_draw_buffers,
GL_ATI_draw_buffers, GL_ATI_element_array, GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap,
GL_ATI_fragment_shader, GL_ATI_map_object_buffer, GL_ATI_separate_stencil,
GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3, GL_ATI_texture_float,
GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once, GL_ATI_vertex_array_object,
GL_ATI_vertex_attrib_array_object, GL_ATI_vertex_streams,
GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3, GL_ATIX_texture_env_route,
GL_ATIX_vertex_shader_output_point_size, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra,
GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_minmax,
GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint,
GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_framebuffer_object,
GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_point_parameters,
GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color,
GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shadow_funcs, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap,
GL_EXT_texgen_reflection, GL_EXT_texture3D,
GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc, GL_EXT_texture_cube_map,
GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine,
GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic,
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp,
GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_vertex_array,
GL_EXT_vertex_shader, GL_HP_occlusion_test, GL_NV_blend_square,
GL_NV_occlusion_query, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_SGI_color_matrix,
GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp,
GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

The ATI Control Panel shows Indirect Rendering.

Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks.

ken

[Michael]

What distribution are you using? Did you use the packaging scripts for that distribution?

[kramey]

I am using the .run file from ATI:

ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86.run

I used the "uninstall" script to remove the 8.26 version, which was working fine.

ken