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phoronix
12-08-2008, 03:40 PM
Phoronix: Wayland Display Server Gets A Terminal

A month ago we talked about Red Hat's Wayland Project, which is a nano display server with integrated compositing manager that is much simpler than the long-standing X Server. Today this project has released a new milestone: Wayland gets a terminal. The Wayland project is led by Kristian Høgsberg and recently he's been attempting to get a full-screen X Server running within Wayland...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NjkxMg

lefevre00
12-09-2008, 05:13 AM
Phoronix: Wayland Display Server Gets A Terminal

A month ago we talked about Red Hat's Wayland Project, which is a nano display server with integrated compositing manager that is much simpler than the long-standing X Server. Today this project has released a new milestone: Wayland gets a terminal. The Wayland project is led by Kristian Høgsberg and recently he's been attempting to get a full-screen X Server running within Wayland...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NjkxMg

As Kristian Høgsberg says here (http://groups.google.fr/group/wayland-display-server/browse_thread/thread/dc2569fcdb1b9c6d) , the project is not a Red Hat's project. But he still working there.

BhaKi
12-10-2008, 07:03 AM
What I mean by that question is whether Wayland is (or intended to be) compatible with the protocol between X Server and X Client or not.

If it is, then why do we need another GTK backend? Won't the normal X backend work? Won't normal X clients be compatible with Wayland?

If it isn't, then stop calling it an X server. It would be a totally new protocol that's incompatible with X protocol.

Please note that my usage of the word "X" doesn't refer to any particular implementation of X like X.Org or XFree86. I'm talking about the X protocol.

lefevre00
12-10-2008, 07:55 AM
What I mean by that question is whether Wayland is (or intended to be) compatible with the protocol between X Server and X Client or not.

If it is, then why do we need another GTK backend? Won't the normal X backend work? Won't normal X clients be compatible with Wayland?

If it isn't, then stop calling it an X server. It would be a totally new protocol that's incompatible with X protocol.

Please note that my usage of the word "X" doesn't refer to any particular implementation of X like X.Org or XFree86. I'm talking about the X protocol.

What I understood, is that Wayland doesn't "speek" X protocol. It's a local display server for everybody PC. Once an X server run on top of wayland (as a wayland client), then any X clients could run on wayland (using GTK, QT, ...).
Porting GTK to wayland allowed GTK client to run without the X Server layer.

I admit than if the rootless X server run on top of wayland, may be it's not necessary to port GTK. Maybe it has something to do with client rendering. Don't know.