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phoronix
12-15-2008, 12:00 PM
Phoronix: Sun Provides 64-bit Java Plug-In For Linux
After years of complaints by its users, last month Adobe released 64-bit Flash for Linux. Now this month Sun Microsystems has come to the table with a Java plug-in that is compatible with 64-bit web browsers...
http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NjkyOQ
bugmenot
12-15-2008, 12:19 PM
Are we talking about openjdk or the non-free java here? If it's the closed java, why don't they support the openjdk, that it can fully replace the non free java? I really like that they help with openjdk, but there should be a 100% free java that works 100% like the closed java. It works almost perfect, but there are in some applications minor ugly-looking things.
For me openjdk is more important than the closed java.
Tares
12-15-2008, 12:44 PM
It's a great news for me. I've just recently switched to 64bits, mostly thanks to the 64b flashplugin and now java-plugin in coming. Awesome ^^;
jeffro-tull
12-15-2008, 12:53 PM
Man, seems like Sun doesn't like its own OS. First JavaFX (which is only for Windows... wtf?), now normal Java?
About time! I'll give it a try as soon as a .deb for ubuntu is available.
Both gcj and openjdk failed to work properly in various java applets.
bulletxt
12-15-2008, 01:20 PM
aleluya aleluya
val-gaav
12-15-2008, 01:26 PM
ekhem 64 bit java was working on any browser that doesn't need a plugin for it and can access java directly... For example konqueror had it for years... So it was mainly Firefox problem. I could as well blame FF for not supporting it the way konqueror does.
bulletxt
12-15-2008, 01:28 PM
ekhem 64 bit java was working on any browser that doesn't need a plugin for it and can access java directly... For example konqueror had it for years... So it was mainly Firefox problem. I could as well blame FF for not supporting it the way konqueror does.
blame firefox? lol
no, it's sun's duty to release a 64bit of their software.
aleluya aleluya
It's spelled "hallujah" in english actually
KohlyKohl
12-15-2008, 02:01 PM
I can finally play tribal trouble 2.
I can finally play tribal trouble 2.
Actually you already could... it worked fine for me on 64bit with one of the plugins. Not for other apps though.
DoDoENT
12-15-2008, 02:04 PM
Well, I'm kind a disappointed. I've just installed it, and applets don't work any better or faster than with IcedTea. There is even no cool java splash screen that used to be appearing while applet was being loaded... For those who want to try it out on intrepid ibex, download the JRE, install it, link the (path_to_where_you_installed_jre)/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so file to your /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins directory, restart the firefox, open the tools->addons, select the plugins tab, enable the libnpjp2.so plugin and disable the icedtea plugin, and restart the firefox once again to be sure the new plugin is loaded. Now enjoy the 64bit java plugin!
deanjo
12-15-2008, 02:21 PM
It's spelled "hallujah" in english actually
Spelling cop :P
KohlyKohl
12-15-2008, 02:40 PM
Does anyone have this working yet? I installed the RPM on OpenSuSE 11.0 and the java version comes up correctly, however, when I link the only plugin file I could find, libjavaplugin_jni.so, the plugin does not load in Firefox.
Under /usr/lib64/browser-plugins/
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 52 2008-12-15 13:25 libjavaplugin_jni.so -> /usr/java/jre1.6.0_12/lib/amd64/libjavaplugin_jni.so
deanjo
12-15-2008, 03:20 PM
Does anyone have this working yet? I installed the RPM on OpenSuSE 11.0 and the java version comes up correctly, however, when I link the only plugin file I could find, libjavaplugin_jni.so, the plugin does not load in Firefox.
Under /usr/lib64/browser-plugins/
There should be updated packages in the java repo shortly (probably not until 11.1 is released though). I chatted with coolo about it.
chelobaka
12-15-2008, 03:47 PM
Does anyone have this working yet? I installed the RPM on OpenSuSE 11.0 and the java version comes up correctly, however, when I link the only plugin file I could find, libjavaplugin_jni.so, the plugin does not load in Firefox.
Under /usr/lib64/browser-plugins/
Read DoDoENT's comment. Plugin is libnpjp2.so. It works great for me, at last I have 3D models in java on wowhead.com :)
deanjo
12-15-2008, 04:46 PM
Read DoDoENT's comment. Plugin is libnpjp2.so. It works great for me, at last I have 3D models in java on wowhead.com :)
It fixes my issue of logging into use applets on the gov't websites too.
bulletxt
12-15-2008, 05:25 PM
It's spelled "hallujah" in english actually
who said that was english?
Xanikseo
12-15-2008, 06:04 PM
Actually alleluia and hallelujah are both acceptable. It comes from the greek work with the hallelujah pronunciation, however, there was no letter 'h' in greek, only a "rough" breathing, shown with a little ' sign on top of the alpha. So hallelujah is technically more true to the original greek word, however, when it was translated from greek in the Bible etc, the 'h' sound was often omitted (as it was not so obvious). Alleluia is a mistake, but it is established none-the-less as a correct spelling
/pronunciation of alleluia/hallelujah.
Sorry for rambling on :P, just got carried away...
butdie
12-15-2008, 07:37 PM
now, I can use sun-jre-bin plugin in epiphany (2.0 firefox)
and icedtea6 for firefox-3.0
too bad, icedtea6 doesn't work in firefox-2.0, and sun-jre-bin doesn't firefox-3
Tares
12-16-2008, 08:38 AM
It works great on Ubuntu 8.10 if you follow this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1011899) short guide ;-)
dkasak
12-16-2008, 08:57 PM
I've never seen the attraction with either flash or java. The fact that there has been no flash or java for 64bit systems hasn't stopped me running 64bit Linux for 5 or so years now.
Flash first. One thing I notice about not having flash on my laptop is that I can open lots of tabs at once without the system coming to a standstill. A lot of sites now have stupid little flash animations, adverts, etc. By themself, they don't make too much difference. But 10 of them at once makes a BIG difference. Whenever I go to my server to do some serious net surfing, I cringe at the effect opening a couple of tabs with flash banners has. Does anyone here know of a good use of flash, apart from maybe http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com :) I don't think so.
As for Java. Jesus! The 2 Java apps I'm forced to use at work - Oracle SQL Developer and Eclipse - each take up about 1GB before they even finish starting up. They pathetically slow. SQL Developer looks ridiculous ( thankfully Eclipse uses GTK ). And they both crash regularly. By the way, I don't use Eclipse for Java development - I use it for Perl and C development :)
So we now have early betas of Flash and Java for 64bit linux. Meh. Won't bother installing them.
DoDoENT
12-17-2008, 04:35 AM
I agree that eclipse is slow. But it's the best IDE I've ever seen. And when it loads, it's not so slow that it wouldn't be possible to work in it
And about the flash: I agree that most of the banners are annoying and slowing down the computer. But I use adblock for such a things. And what about the youtube? How do you watch youtube without flash?
curaga
12-17-2008, 10:36 AM
Not everyone has a need to watch youtube.
double post, but still worth mentioning. just shifted to 64-bit linux recently (ubuntu 8.10 amd64), and this native sun java plugin rocks. openjdk and icedtea plugin are ok too, but they seem a little raw - fonts and widgets look a little off.
together with adobe flash 64 beta and firefox trunk (3.2, minefield), browsing seems on steroids :D.
aside, the shift to 64-bit has been very smooth. was compelled to shift after i had heard of seamless compatibility with 32-bit apps (using multilib or whatever) and indeed it is so. 32-bit apps like adobe reader or doom3 just work fine. heard of w64codecs only recently, though it has been out for quite some time. also heard praises about nspluginwrapper and indeed it works very fine, but native 64-bit plugins are a whole new different experience. although the general idea is that performance of 32-bit and 64-bit is nearly same, i guess there is a difference for good (definitely more than some time back when i tried 64-bit slackware called slamd64 back in 2005).
Abraxas
12-19-2008, 12:30 PM
It's spelled "hallujah" in english actually
Actually no it isn't. It's spelled "Hallelujah" or "Alleluia" in English.
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