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phoronix
02-05-2009, 11:40 AM
Phoronix: Fedora 11 Released With Huge Feature Set

While a few delays were experienced by the Red Hat engineers and community working on Fedora 11 (a.k.a. Leonidas), the first alpha release of this popular Linux distribution is now available...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzA0Mg

ethana2
02-05-2009, 12:04 PM
'the first alpha release of this popular Linux distribution is now available'
!=
'Fedora 11 Released'

Delete this comment when fixed.

Michael
02-05-2009, 12:29 PM
'the first alpha release of this popular Linux distribution is now available'
!=
'Fedora 11 Released'

Delete this comment when fixed.

Whoops, title fixed. Sorry about that, exhausted from all the traveling this week.

Louise
02-05-2009, 01:11 PM
Can't remember where, but I read that EXT4 doesn't have defragmentation support right now. A shame, as that would really be the killer feature for a Linux FS.

Let's hope that BTRfs makes it into Anaconda :)

blagishnessosity
02-05-2009, 01:17 PM
Some of the desktop features in Fedora 11 include a new GNOME volume control interface

A new volume control interface?! You call that an exciting new feature? You've got to be kidding me...

Vadi
02-05-2009, 01:31 PM
Maybe it's the pre-installed MinGW instead.

But on a more serious note, congrats to them. I hope they also fixed up some of that SELinux stuff - I managed to bork my f10 after half an hour of use and now I cannot have it check for updates at all.

RealNC
02-05-2009, 01:36 PM
Good thing there's Fedora. People who do pre-alpha testing so that the rest of us who use useful distros get less bugs later :D

dashcloud
02-05-2009, 03:24 PM
Maybe it's the pre-installed MinGW instead.

But on a more serious note, congrats to them. I hope they also fixed up some of that SELinux stuff - I managed to bork my f10 after half an hour of use and now I cannot have it check for updates at all.

I had the same issue as well- where it try to use the update app, and would fail with a message about .org.dbus (or something similar) not having permissions.

I ended up using yum to update the packages (whatever ones were mentioned in the error message, plus selinux policies, hal, and yum updates). I can't remember exactly which package did it, but after installing the right upgrade, the updater app started working again.
Hope that helps!

r1348
02-05-2009, 04:46 PM
It was a dbus issue, not SElinux, and yes, you need to issue a manual "yum update" in order to revert dbus back to a working version...

Vadi
02-05-2009, 05:36 PM
Ah, thanks for that.

Wyatt
02-06-2009, 03:47 AM
You know, I feel like Fedora tries to do too much too fast. I hope that enabling an incomplete filesystem for end-user selection, even if it's got bright neon-lava coloured warnings on it, doesn't come back to bite them in the ass.

Hephasteus
02-06-2009, 04:04 AM
You know, I feel like Fedora tries to do too much too fast. I hope that enabling an incomplete filesystem for end-user selection, even if it's got bright neon-lava coloured warnings on it, doesn't come back to bite them in the ass.

Have to agree with ya there. 10 was more stable in mid beta than it was at release. I think their release schedules are too fast and maybe they should stretch them out to 9 months. Give more of a chance to make real improvements instead of constantly stitching small upgrades together.

11 is so developement heavy though. It makes me wonder if everyone is not dogpiling into linux. But they could release every 3 months and still not have latest versions of the massive upstream movements. What a difference the last 2 years has made.

BlackStar
02-06-2009, 04:59 AM
But they could release every 3 months and still not have latest versions of the massive upstream movements.
Or they could avoid massive dist-upgrades every 6 months and roll their releases ala Debian unstable. Isn't Fedora something like RHEL unstable, anyway?

What a difference the last 2 years has made.
Quoted for truth.

lmax
02-06-2009, 05:03 AM
BIG set of New features MEANS a lot of BUGS...:):):):)

panda84
02-06-2009, 06:28 AM
What I usually do is install a Fedora respin 3 months after it's out. It's quite stable but it's still ahead of the other distributions in terms of upstream versions.
http://spins.fedoraunity.org/spins
A F10 respin is due out shortly.

Hephasteus
02-07-2009, 10:32 PM
What I usually do is install a Fedora respin 3 months after it's out. It's quite stable but it's still ahead of the other distributions in terms of upstream versions.
http://spins.fedoraunity.org/spins
A F10 respin is due out shortly.

I might have to backup and reinstall respin as my 10 is messed up badly. I think core 8 went off updates with something like 450 bug fixes being dropped. I'm thinking 10 will only get really good by time 11 is released. :( There's still so many x problems and video driver problems but it needs adobe to fix flash for x_64 badly. I don't think the new respin is going to be worth burning maybe the next one.

rv65
02-26-2009, 11:45 PM
Flash for X86_64 is very easy. The native plugin isn't that hard to install. Download it and copy the libflashplayer.so to your /mozilla/plugins folder and you're good to go.