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phoronix
02-15-2009, 07:40 AM
Phoronix: Debian Lenny 5.0 Released

Nearly two years after the introduction of Debian 4.0 "Etch", Debian has reached the version 5.0 milestone. Debian 5.0 "Lenny" was released yesterday on Valentine's Day after it previously had faced a few delays...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzA2OA

d2kx
02-15-2009, 09:40 AM
Nuclear-bomb-stable :eek:

Yes it can :)

nir2142
02-15-2009, 10:13 AM
what debian have to offer against opensuse fedora or ubuntu except that debian is very stable?

NeoBrain
02-15-2009, 10:20 AM
what debian have to offer against opensuse fedora or ubuntu except that debian is very stable?

Stability is a /very/ strong argument for many people, you know? ;)

d2kx
02-15-2009, 10:25 AM
what debian have to offer against opensuse fedora or ubuntu except that debian is very stable?

It has probably the biggest repository, it supports the most architectures, it uses the default desktop environment configuration's, it uses dpkg/apt-get, it has very nice splitted packages for example with KDE which makes it fun to use the netinst. Debian is not bleeding-edge, but it does everythink else just right.

Kano
02-15-2009, 10:40 AM
The default kernel is just too old - combine it with 2.6.28 and you will have much more fun ;) Btw. it is really nice that the official 64 bit plugin went into it, just

apt-get install sun-java6-plugin

even with AMD64 and it should work (when non-free sources are enabled).

cb88
02-15-2009, 04:18 PM
with modules-assistant (an awesome tool btw) and a kernel packaging guide

you too can run debian with 2.6.28 :-P

Kano
02-15-2009, 04:34 PM
I have got already a repository with that. And I prefer dkms over m-a because dkms works automatically.

cb88
02-15-2009, 04:55 PM
@kano I had heard of that but haven't tried it... so you are saying it works even for kernels i build myself?

Kano
02-15-2009, 05:12 PM
Of course, when you use make-kpkg then it is triggered on install, otherwise on boot. My 3d driver scripts use dkms for nvidia + fglrx automatically - even on pure Debian.

d2kx
02-15-2009, 05:20 PM
Regarding the "too old kernel, too old Xorg". Lenny & a half is already announced and should be here sooner than etch & a half was.

Kano
02-15-2009, 05:25 PM
The kernel is easy to upgrade, Xorg is more compilcated, installing binary drivers is the preferred way. Of course this would not help much for new hardware which only runs on oss drivers.

yogi_berra
02-16-2009, 06:58 AM
what debian have to offer against opensuse fedora or ubuntu except that debian is very stable?

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/ Debian has super cow powers and 23,000+ \
\ packages that are fully supported. /
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t.s.
02-16-2009, 11:43 AM
... Lenny & a half ...
what is 'a half'??

sorry, noob here :D

thanks

yogi_berra
02-17-2009, 06:29 AM
They release a new installer with a new kernel close to half-way through the release cycle which facilitates Stable branch installs on new hardware not supported by the Lenny kernel.