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phoronix
07-04-2009, 03:10 PM
Phoronix: Linus Issues Independence Day 2.6.31-rc2 Kernel

For those of you not out celebrating the Independence Day / 4th of July in America, there is a new release candidate for the Linux 2.6.31 kernel that is now ready for testing. In this second release candidate there is a new DRM pull bringing various fixes and improvements, including Intel DisplayPort support for hardware with such new connectors. Beyond updates to the kernel side of the Linux graphics stack, Linux 2.6.31-rc2 brings performance counters to new architectures, large architecture updates for MIPS and PowerPC, a large intel-iommu merge, and various other changes...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzM2Ng

KDesk
07-04-2009, 04:31 PM
Phoronix: Linus Issues Independence Day 2.6.31-rc2 Kernel

For those of you not out celebrating the Independence Day / 4th of July in America...

Only in the United States of America because we in South America don't celebrate that.

Some people think that in America only USA exists...


I would like to know why so many developers in Linux work, but in other important areas such as Xorg, there are less devs.

Ex-Cyber
07-04-2009, 08:53 PM
Only in the United States of America because we in South America don't celebrate that.

Some people think that in America only USA exists...In English, people usually say/write "the Americas" when a short term is needed to talk about North and South America together, while "America" is almost always referring to the USA. If there is some kind of ambiguity or arrogance in this, it's inherent in the name of the country. As much as I like to join in the fun of critiquing Michael's English, I have to say that this has been standard usage for a long time and is not likely to change anytime soon.

smitty3268
07-04-2009, 09:54 PM
In English, people usually say/write "the Americas" when a short term is needed to talk about North and South America together, while "America" is almost always referring to the USA. If there is some kind of ambiguity or arrogance in this, it's inherent in the name of the country. As much as I like to join in the fun of critiquing Michael's English, I have to say that this has been standard usage for a long time and is not likely to change anytime soon.

Exactly. America is a country. "The Americas" are continents with many countries. There's a pretty clear difference, there, i think.

L33F3R
07-04-2009, 11:21 PM
america might also refer to the "new world".

curaga
07-05-2009, 05:13 AM
Does it get annoying to anyone else non-american to see most tech sites mention this (4. of july, some kind of big day back there)? Sites with global audience should ignore things like this IMO.

mcgreg
07-05-2009, 05:31 AM
Does it get annoying to anyone else non-american to see most tech sites mention this (4. of july, some kind of big day back there)? Sites with global audience should ignore things like this IMO.

It doesn't really annoy me, but there can you see the US american arrogance. They still think they're the center of the world.

And from the reaction of a few people here, I see the southern american countries doesnt like that either. American IS NOT USA. America is a continent: North and South America. And there exists countries like Brasilia, Chile, Mexico .. and yes even Canada und Peru ;) (and more...of course)

Everything else is simply discriminatory.
So, if you mean USA, then say USA. Or US-America. Are these two letters so hard to say?

bridgman
07-05-2009, 05:52 AM
Sorry, but "American" has been the term used to describe residents of the USA for at least a hundred years and probably more. Living as close to the US as I do (you can see it from Toronto on a clear day) I think I would have heard if there was another term being used :D

There is some unfortunate ambiguity in naming - the word America was also used to refer to the entire North + South American land mass.

I think the problem here is more the lack of a global standards committee for naming things than arrogance or ill intent ;)

mcgreg
07-05-2009, 06:09 AM
Sorry, but "American" has been the term used to describe residents of the USA for at least a hundred years and probably more. Living as close to the US as I do (you can see it from Toronto on a clear day) I think I would have heard if there was another term being used :D

There is some unfortunate ambiguity in naming - the word America was also used to refer to the entire North + South American land mass.

I think the problem here is more the lack of a global standards committee for naming things than arrogance or ill intent ;)

I have to partially disagree with you. Right, people have been using "America" for the USA - even here in Germany - they still do. But then it's simply plain wrong. The country's name is United states OF america. America is the continent. That says every worldmap.

I really think this is discriminatory towards all other countries in America, since it makes them look "less important". Which is of course not the case.

Kano
07-05-2009, 07:03 AM
Funny, that nobody mentioned the kernel ;)

LordLethis
07-05-2009, 07:45 AM
Funny, that nobody mentioned the kernel ;)

According to the article, it is only for residents of the USA, so we can't get our hands on it - so how could we comment on it? :D

kiersie
07-05-2009, 09:16 AM
America is not likely also in the netherlands(VS or the states) but the name of the netherlands is also called wrong the name Holland but that ar two province only from 12.

mcgreg
07-05-2009, 10:13 AM
America is not likely also in the netherlands(VS or the states) but the name of the netherlands is also called wrong the name Holland but that ar two province only from 12.

Indeed, I do it myself most of the time :) But I know it is wrong and would not use it officially, just privately :)

"Holland (Venlo)" is only 20km away from here ;)

MartjeB
07-05-2009, 10:32 AM
Darn. I'm Dutch and I didn't knew that! :D

smitty3268
07-05-2009, 01:38 PM
I have to partially disagree with you. Right, people have been using "America" for the USA - even here in Germany - they still do. But then it's simply plain wrong. The country's name is United states OF america. America is the continent. That says every worldmap.

I really think this is discriminatory towards all other countries in America, since it makes them look "less important". Which is of course not the case.

This is ridiculous. You can try to redefine the term if you want, but don't complain when others use it the way it's been used for the last hundred years. As far as making other countries look less important, if you think this matters then those countries are either super insecure, or they really are that unimportant. Complaining about what people call another country isn't doing them any favors.

And lots of countries have their names shortened like this - Britain, Iran, North Korea, China, etc. all have much longer names that no one uses.

bridgman
07-05-2009, 01:53 PM
I do understand what mcgreg is saying though; it seems like everyone is a lot more touchy about imagined offences these days. Maybe that means there has been progress in solving the real problems and now people are looking at the little stuff, but it seems to me that there are enough big problems in the world we should be trying to resolve first.

So, how's that new kernel working for everyone ?

hax0r
07-05-2009, 03:00 PM
So, how's that new kernel working for everyone ?I'm getting a BSOD from time to time (black screen of death), some module is crapping out. Also they left stlc45xx broken, it doesn't compile. My X-Fi Prelude works now out of the box, looks like the git alsa is completely merged.

kraftman
07-05-2009, 03:49 PM
Funny, that nobody mentioned the kernel ;)

People just want to keep on topic ;)

Veerappan
07-06-2009, 12:16 PM
The graphics part of 2.6.31-rc2 is working fine (as well as xf86-video-ati git normally works, anyway), but I have been having issues with ejecting DVDs from my optical drive for a few days now (git copies of Linus' linux-2.6 tree)

In gnome (ubuntu 9.04), either right click + eject, or pressing the eject button on the drive leads to the following:


Cannot eject volume

There was an error ejecting the volume or drive.

org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure:
eject: unable to eject, last error: inappropriate ioctl for device.

Kano
07-06-2009, 04:59 PM
I am testing that kernel now too, it has a major problem, device-mapper is broken. I found a working patch here:

http://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/33534/mbox/

Also for older gcc you need one additional patch:

http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/7/1/292

hax0r
07-08-2009, 06:19 PM
I am testing that kernel now too, it has a major problem, device-mapper is broken. I found a working patch here:

http://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/33534/mbox/

Also for older gcc you need one additional patch:

http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/7/1/292Would that explain why my cd-rom doesn't want to burn images or blank cds anymore?

Kano
07-08-2009, 06:21 PM
I don't think so. Do you use old legacy code with /dev/hdX? Only Debian seems to use that with current kernels - all others use libata.