Name The Next ATI Driver Contest (2007)

[Michael]

From the other threads in the ATI/AMD Linux Forum, some of the unofficial names for the past driver releases has been:

8.38.6: The Least To Report On Driver In Two Years
8.38.6: Still no R600 or AIGLX Support
8.37.6: The no R600 or AIGLX Support Version
8.36.5: The Still no fglrx AIGLX Support Edition

Anyone want to guess what the next driver (fglrx v8.39) version will be called? The Driver That Still Lacks AIGLX and R600 support? 8.39: The Birth of AIGLX Support?

This thread may prove to be more interesting than yesterday's driver release for Fedora 7 users :D

[yoshi314]

8.39 "8.35 does it better edition"
8.40 "waiting for 8.41 edition"
8.41 "move along people, nothing to see here edition"
8.42 "maybe next year edition"
8.43 "AIGLX support....NOT! edition"
8.44 "the christmas present you won't like edition"

the unlikely relase that will actually incorporate all the stuff we can only dream of - stability and performance - "too little, too late edition"

[lenrek]

Overrated Version?

Too Late & Too Little Version?

Forever In Progress Edition?

[sundown]

8.43 "AIGLX support....NOT! edition"
:lol: :D
a "What are you waiting for? Swtich to Nvidia" edition :)

[lenrek]

:lol: :D
a "What are you waiting for? Swtich to Nvidia" edition :)

I am using a laptop... :(

[yoshi314]

seriously i'm totally dissapointed with ati's progress on linux. i really hope something good happens in some other development branch while those maintenance releases keep going out.

that's actually my last hope for ever seeing a functional driver from ati.

8.45 - "ati linux team - the place of many deaths edition" :]

[sundown]

I am using a laptop... :(

Me too. You know, that makes us even double screwed ;)

[Nicolas]

Me too. You know, that makes us even double screwed ;)

Make us three! :(

[Svartalf]

I am using a laptop... :(

I bought a new laptop... :D I know, easier said than done, but...

[lenrek]

I bought a new laptop... :D I know, easier said than done, but...

I am getting a new laptop.

I tried one of those Dell Inspiron 640m (http://lenrek.wordpress.com/2007/06/18/24/), not bad, AIGLX + Compiz works fine, though not as good as my Desktop PC (http://lenrek.wordpress.com/2007/06/16/22/) (using an old NVIDIA GeForce4 MX4000) at home.

I should be getting a laptop that uses Intel GPU.

[glussier]

Why have different version numbers, just call them all The waiting game.

For me, AMD/ATI it's over, I'll buy what meets my requirements at the moment of purchase, not something that might do it sometime in the future.

[d2kx]

8.39 "8.35 does it better edition"
8.40 "waiting for 8.41 edition"
8.41 "move along people, nothing to see here edition"
8.42 "maybe next year edition"
8.43 "AIGLX support....NOT! edition"
8.44 "the christmas present you won't like edition"

the unlikely relase that will actually incorporate all the stuff we can only dream of - stability and performance - "too little, too late edition"

I laughed out loud when I read this, really awesome :D

[Christian_L]

Ah, finally a nice possibility to let out a bit of the frustration... Thank you!

8.39: Not that you might notice any difference
8.40: Actually, we changed a BIG part of the code. Honestly, I swear.
8.41: So who is this Fedora, anyway?
8.42: I told you I don't know this woman!
8.43: Suse is short for Susanne, right?
8.44: Just leave me alone with your chicks!
8.45: If you are so hip and cool and need all the fancy gimmicks, then why don't you just go and buy a Mac?
8.46: Hello, anybody still there?
8:47: Dammit...

[Trek1701]

8.39: He's dead Jim!

[rbmorse]

8.39: He's dead Jim!

Are you describing the driver or the parent company? Might be true in both cases.

[Trek1701]

Are you describing the driver or the parent company? Might be true in both cases.
Just the driver.

[yoshi314]

how about ubuntu-ish naming?

8.39 - absolute atrocity
8.40 - bad blob
8.41 - crappy code
8.42 - deferred debug
8.43 - elusive errors
8.44 - fluggish fquirrel :D (okay, i didn't know what to make up here)

and so on....

[psyopper]

I was going for the "I should have gotten an nVidia edition" but someone already sorta beat me to it...

"C'monalready edition"
"Are you f-ing kidding me? edition"

[Moustacha]

8.50 "we still have people who use this?!"

[yoshi314]

8.51 - "is there anybody out there? edition"

[b15hop]

8.52 You realise we use Nvidia cards anyway?

[yoshi314]

8.53 - "we use windows edition"
8.54 - "what is gcc? edition"
8.55 - "AIGLX? as in Another Irresistible Great Letter X ? edition"
8.56 - "just use windows edition"
8.57 - "we can't code, we're just cleaning here edition"

[Battery]

8.39 - "A update only noticeable through a microscope"

8.40 - "ATI/AMD Linux Catalyst Drivers: Crash a-lot Edition"

8.41 - "Bits of AIGLX code found, but no implementation Edition"

8.42 - "ATI/AMD Linux Catastrophe Drivers: The name says it all."

8.43 - "I smell AIGLX, oh wait, nevermind."

8.44 - "The still no performance improvement edition."

8.45 - "The last release, and sadly, the most pointless."

Thats my prediction. Of course it could go in any order, not just the order I specified above. Maybe with the exception of the last release one, but I had to end the list haha.

Also I think that if AMD is going to put money into a linux division, they should do it right. Either that, or just release the specs and don't have one at all if they're not going to do anything.

[niniendowarrior]

8.39.99 - The AIGLX support that only makes your Linux lock up.

[Nicolas]

Also I think that if AMD is going to put money into a linux division, they should do it right. Either that, or just release the specs and don't have one at all if they're not going to do anything.

Totally agree with you!

[mukiex]

8.45 The "No support yet for R700" Edition

8.67 The "Still no support for R700, preliminary R600 support" Edition

8.68 The "Nvidia had G90 support at launch?" Edition

9.0 The AIGLX edition!

9.01 The "Hotfix for AIGLX that keeps it from breaking X.org 7.4 and devouring a third of your kernel" Edition

1.0 The "AMD fired our f***ing driver team, replaced it with engineers that wrote a fully open driver with a hybrid blob option for a few closed pieces" Edition

[Svartalf]

1.0 The "AMD fired our f***ing driver team, replaced it with engineers that wrote a fully open driver with a hybrid blob option for a few closed pieces" Edition

Now, now... Be nice. >:-)

[yoshi314]

8.61 - "ported to c++ from python edition"
8.62 - "anybody knows how to code here? edition"
8.63 - "janitor's nightlies edition"
8.64 - "where did all the fps go? edition"
8.65 - "who needs DRI anyway? edition"

and then re-release
8.25.22 - "if only we turned the debugging off...edition"

[mukiex]

Now, now... Be nice. >:-)

I was being nice ;) My original title for that one involved a buyout of some sort, but then I realize they'd already been bought out, so I just re-routed it :3

[Xipeos]

8.39: What you expected

Same maintenance/nothing-new-for-the-end-user type of driver. Seriously now, would you expect anything else?!

[Moustacha]

8.80 "we give up, have the specs"

[Kirurgs]

8.39.6: "Linux? Aha! Uff, finally we are here..."

[Huenengrab]

"Just switched to Nvidia, don't care anymore". :)

[Linux Hair Puller]

ATI Drivers

"Makes me pull my hair out"

[Nicolas]

"Just switched to Nvidia, don't care anymore". :)

I wish I could say that... Only if I could change my notebook's videocard... :(

[Svartalf]

I wish I could say that... Only if I could change my notebook's videocard... :(

Heh... I changed notebooks... :D

8.85 : "Bought a whole new laptop to get NVidia instead..."

[yatt]

8.39 - Not Worth the Bandwidth

[Michael]

"8.35 [no longer] does it better edition"


How does that one sound?

[Svartalf]

How does that one sound?

Heh... Fitting,really... >;-)

[yoshi314]

well, yay for working TexturedVideo. hopefully.

because that's what i meant by "doing it better" in 8.35, which was the last driver where it actually worked.

[Michael]

well, yay for working TexturedVideo. hopefully.

because that's what i meant by "doing it better" in 8.35, which was the last driver where it actually worked.

I know what you meant by 8.35.

[King InuYasha]

8.50.1 "Why are we doing this? the OSS AVIVO driver replaced us!"

I'm rooting for the avivo driver and now sporadically looking at this proprietary stuff... At least its possible to keep detailed track of the avivo driver...

[yoshi314]

yup. i wish ati had some kind of detailed changelog.

but then again, it could reveal lots of embarrassing development mistakes :)

[Michael]

Start guessing for 8.40 :D

[Svartalf]

Heh... It's going to be the "minimal bugfixes because we're trying to get a new codebase out the door..." version, if you ask me. :D

[yoshi314]

8.40 - "3 crappy releases and one decent bugfix. let's do it again!" :]

[sundown]

I wonder what the ATI guys will think if they see the jokes here?
Or what are they thinking if they already saw them :cool:

[Svartalf]

I wonder what the ATI guys will think if they see the jokes here?
Or what are they thinking if they already saw them :cool:

Oh, trust me, Matthew Tippett and Co ARE reading this and the other forum threads on the subject of ATI's endeavors. The bad jokes HAVE to sting, but I'm of the opinion that he's tied up with a piggin' strand here on the drivers issue.

[chrisr]

Oh, trust me, Matthew Tippett and Co ARE reading this and the other forum threads on the subject of ATI's endeavors.

Where would I send the output of atigetsysteminfo? Last night's attempt at using 8.39.4 calls for waaay more data than I could post here or paste into ATI's Linux feedback site.

BTW, I have no idea what "Textured Video" is exactly, but I think it is what crashed my X server when I had finished playing a Quicktime movie file using "xine -V Xv".

[Michael]

Where would I send the output of atigetsysteminfo? Last night's attempt at using 8.39.4 calls for waaay more data than I could post here or paste into ATI's Linux feedback site.

You could email the data to michael [at] phoronix.com, and I can forward it on.

[Svartalf]

yup. i wish ati had some kind of detailed changelog.

but then again, it could reveal lots of embarrassing development mistakes :)

8.39.4: The Brown Paper Bag Version :D

[yoshi314]

8.40 "beyond embarrassment"

[Moustacha]

8.41 "we had the drivers around here somewhere...have these old ones instead :D"

[yoshi314]

8.41 "fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. speaking of suffering, here's your monthly fix" :]

[rolz]

8.40 "Optimized release notes, slimmed to only two sections, 'known issues' and 'legal' "-edition


or perhaps

8.40 "when it divides by zero, it gets nullity now. Realized it was bogus, doesn't solve a thing, wasted time"-edition

or

8.40 "if you think you can do it better, here's the source"-edition

[lenrek]

...

8.40 "if you think you can do it better, here's the source"-edition

If this ever happens, I think would be great...

[Svartalf]

If this ever happens, I think would be great...

I think I would probably see Lucifer looking for ice-skates before that one happens... :D

[Michael]

8.43/8.44: A new wave?

Edit: By the way. a "dissecting the fglrx driver" article will be out in a few days.

[Michael]

Our naming contest is starting to appear on blogs :D

http://osrevolution.wordpress.com/2007/06/26/atiamd-driver-linux-svelati-i-prossimi-codename/

http://www.ossblog.it/post/2695/nuovi-driver-per-ati

[Svartalf]

Our naming contest is starting to appear on blogs :D

http://osrevolution.wordpress.com/2007/06/26/atiamd-driver-linux-svelati-i-prossimi-codename/

http://www.ossblog.it/post/2695/nuovi-driver-per-ati

I'm waiting for it to grace the Inqwell's or TheReg's pages... >:-) :D

[yoshi314]

omg. <goes off to burn down from embarrassment>.

[Michael]

8.40 is coming out in the near future.... any final takers on what it will be called? :D

[d2kx]

8.40 - the "we have to release 12 drivers a year" driver
8.40 - the "still no update yet" driver
8.40 - the "31 days remaining for 8.41" driver

I don't know :(

[Svartalf]

8.40 is coming out in the near future.... any final takers on what it will be called? :D

Heh... I'm game...

8.40 : The not so bad, but yet not so hot version
8.40 : The Poor Marksman version

[Moustacha]

8.40: That's how many features you can still dream about

[yoshi314]

8.40 is coming out in the near future.... any final takers on what it will be called
8.40 "performance improvements! stability! hey, i work for nvidia. what am i doing here?"
8.41 "life is a one big betatest edition"
8.42 "highly optimized edition. for 486."

[Svartalf]

8.42 "highly optimized edition. for 486."

8.43 "Highly DE-optimized edition. (What? You wanted performance??)"

[Moustacha]

8.40 "performance improvements! stability! hey, i work for nvidia. what am i doing here?"
Hehe, best one i've seen so far :D

[Svartalf]

Hehe, best one i've seen so far :D

It was rather good, wasn't it?

[Nicolas]

8.40 "glxgears is broken edition..."

[yoshi314]

8.40 - "3d is soooo 90s"
8.41 - "performance, stability, features, 150mb download. pick one."
8.42 - "software rendering, instability, missing features, aiglx. pick three"
8.43 - "linux is incompatible with OUR driver. go blame them."
8.44 - "aieeeee-GLX ... is gone!"

now for something different

8.45 - "the random menace"
8.46 - "attack of the bugs"
8.47 - "revenge of the compiler"
8.48 - "a new blob"
8.49 - "the stack strikes back"
8.50 - "return of the TexturedVideo"

[Svartalf]

8.40 "glxgears is broken edition..."

8.40 "Quake 4 and Unreal Tournament 2k4 is broken edition..." >:-)

[Svartalf]

now for something different


Which brings to mind another name...

8.40 "The 16 Ton Weight on Top of Your Computer" edition

And in keeping with the theme of the second set...

8.40 "Meesa think it's not gonna work" edition... (Yeah, I know, but I had to get Jar-Jar in there SOMEHOW as he's fitting for the drivers...)

[Throwing Strikes]

Fglrx SSDD (Same S*** Different Day)

[yoshi314]

8.40 "FGLRX - Farly Good Lump of Random X code."

[Svartalf]

8.40 "FGLRX - Farly Good Lump of Random X code."

You got the meaning for the "G" wrong there- 'G' should really mean "gnarly"...

[ioannis]

8.40: "see you next month..."
8.41: "I was only kidding!"
8.41.2: "Ok people, show is over!"
8.42: "see Dave! I told you. They are still here!"
8.43: "Don't you get it already?!"
8.43.25: "Seriously people! Isn't there anything better you can do than waiting for a driver?"
8.44: "Get a life!"

and the list goes on ;)

[yoshi314]

You got the meaning for the "G" wrong there- 'G' should really mean "gnarly"...guess i'll have to improve my vocabulary. never heard the word.

8.40 "one bug a day keeps aiglx away"

[d2kx]

8.40 "one bug a day keeps aiglx away"

That's awesome :D

[Michael]

That's awesome :D


I agree, I think we have a winner for 8.40.

[Svartalf]

guess i'll have to improve my vocabulary. never heard the word.

8.40 "one bug a day keeps aiglx away"

gnarl·y –adjective, gnarl·i·er, gnarl·i·est.
1. gnarled.
2. Slang. distasteful; distressing; offensive; gross: a comic noted for his gnarly humor.

And, I'd have to concur- your naming is by and far the most descriptive and fitting one of the bunch for 8.40... :D

[petercruickshank]

OK, here's a few:

8.40 - We support the open source driver by exemplifying the bad closed source driver edition
8.40 - Pulsing watermark edition
8.40 - Now with watermarks in all 4 corners edition

[yoshi314]

8.41 - "crash now, ask questions later."
8.42 - "8.41 - 8.42 . find 3 differences"
8.43 - "almost there"
8.44 - "well, not reall. possibly maybe"

[d2kx]

8.45 - "Have no F.E.A.R., AIGLX is HERE! I mean, NEAR!"

8.50 - "The still no OpenGL 3.0 and R700 support driver"

[Michael]

One Bug A Day Keeps AIGLX Away -- http://www.phoronix.com/?page=news_item&px=NTk4MA

Any takers for the name of 8.41? I've come up with my own name for this release as well.

[Svartalf]

One Bug A Day Keeps AIGLX Away -- http://www.phoronix.com/?page=news_item&px=NTk4MA

Any takers for the name of 8.41? I've come up with my own name for this release as well.

Oh, my... He PUBLISHED it. Guess I need to seek my 15 seconds of fame and try more seriously for this... :D

[netsurf]

This is madness? THIS IS 8.41!

[yoshi314]

8.41 "oh, aiglx...where art thou?"

[Moustacha]

8.41 "JAAYMOO" (Just Another Acronym You're Missing Out On)
8.41 "We had two cows, but we installed fglrx on them"

[yoshi314]

8.41 - "we know what you were reverse engineering this summer"

[d2kx]

8.41 "the newer build date than 8.40 driver"

[rolz]

8.41 what? indirect rendering is not the same as incredibly slow rendering?

but seeing as that's too negative to ever make it, let me try again

8.41 unified driver signing annoyance.
8.41 now also signing the shim, better get those compile options right.

no wait that's no good either

8.42 known issue crashes X.
8.42 finally api chased the .23 kernel, being marked deprecated for 6 months wasn't enough.

nah all too lame let me try really really hard

8.41 Introducing fgl_glxderailed

well not brilliant but i'm hitting submit anyways. NAH

[Throwing Strikes]

Fglrx 8.40.4 Wait for it! Never mind.
Fglrx 8.41 is fast but Nvidia's 100.14.12 is faster
Fglrx 8.42 and the return of the watermark
Fglrx 8.5 Too Much, Too Little, Too Late

[d2kx]

8.41 "The faster than VESA driver (if it improves in the future)"

[frep]

Fglrx 8.41 The version that your pc will hate edition
Fglrx 8.42 Finally only one bug... FGLRX! edition
Fglrx 8.43 Format your pc and install Vista edition
Fglrx 8.44 Are we developing driver? Get serious, here we play with Commodore64 edition
Fglrx 8.45 Next year i'll buy a Nvidia edition

[Svartalf]

8.41 The Labrea Tar Pits Edition...

8.41 The Watermark Strikes Back Edition...

8.41 The "Hypermemory? We support that?" Edition...

8.41 The Random Crash Edition...

[DarkFoss]

8.41 Aiglx ? It will be a cold day in Hello edition

[Svartalf]

Heh... If the forum reports for fglrx are true on the current Rawhide Fedora, then 8.40's more "The Watermark Strikes Back"...

[DarkFoss]

8.42 AIGLX ? LOL if we give ya that you'll just start asking for Crossfire !

[yoshi314]

some proverb craze:

8.41 - "You can't teach old driver new tricks"
8.42 - "caught between a feature and a bug report"
8.43 - "Don't count your bugs before they're discovered"
8.44 - "bugfix makes perfect"
8.45 - "Good releases come in small packages . 144mb download"
8.56 - "Performance is silver. Stability is golden. Bronze edition."