The New Driver Is Out! Meet Oktoberfest!

[niniendowarrior]

AMD has gotten their act together.

8.41 will be out early next week.

That is great to hear, Michael. Now if only they can fix my AGP troubles.

[Michael]

Just dropped in by chance.

Good to see you back on the forums as well.

[niniendowarrior]

Good to see you back on the forums as well.

And good timing too. :D I've mostly given up on ATi so it's a nice surprise to see drivers that are back on track. Hopefully, it's everything I hope for.

[Svartalf]

Oh Svartalf, is this the end of our ATi cynical days? :D

Heh... I don't know- if they DO keep up at this rate as long as they don't have silicon boo-boos, I think so. I remain on the fence a little longer to see what all they hand us based off of the promises we're about to be given at noon EDT today.

[niniendowarrior]

Heh... I don't know- if they DO keep up at this rate as long as they don't have silicon boo-boos, I think so. I remain on the fence a little longer to see what all they hand us based off of the promises we're about to be given at noon EDT today.

Yes... always the skeptical one. You are right to be skeptical. I do hope the driver is true because it's sad for everyone to be built up based on false promises.

[opera]

Xipeos and Opera, do I have to tell you two to stop fighting?

Let me just summarize the flaws of the assumptions Xipeos has of me. After all, he's lying about Me, which is a bit out of the ordinary, and not really suitable here. And, he's making some tasteless comments on me, personally.

Don't judge a driver by it's version. Someone suggested the 8.41 means the 41 release of the 8th year. Not everyone is using the same versioning system as the kernel devs.

Have I ever said that everyone is using the same "versioning system" (versioning system is a tool, like CVS, SVN, gif. Maybe you meant version practice/model/scheme) as the kernel devs?
Even the linux kernel has changed versioning scheme over the years.

But to the facts; I'd be surprised to see any program being heavily rewritten from version x.yz into x.y[z+1]. I've never seen it before, but some time should be the first time, they say.

Of course you can opera. A couple of dedicated programmers can do it in...two weeks? wtf do you know?! You're just an angry user.

* Two weeks? Let's say the ATI source tree would be (I'm just making a guess) at least 20 Mb. To just analyze and get used to the code, would take several weeks.
* Two weeks would be a suitable last test-period from last Release Candidate to Release. Why do I know this?:
* No, I'm not an angry user. I'm a programmer. Have been for a decade. Been developing in several languages on DOS/Win32/Linux, mostly in C and C++.

I would like to know where you get the idea that someone could port a newly released ATI driver to RandR 1.2 in two weeks (and not have something extremely broken and buggy and only worth a complete re-write or two).
Have you even once written a single line of code? It doesn't sound like it. Your immature view on open source, seems the equal on programming in general.

EDIT: you don't have to re-write the whole driver for randr. You can just build an interface that translates randr requests to DDM (like wine and cedega do with their compatibility layer).

FYI: I'm currently (not too much though, since I'm on a tight schedule) working on RandR 1.2-support for the open source Avivo-driver. To make something like that really work, means to get used to large parts of the driver, but perhaps even more time needs to get used to the X.org source tree which is absolutely huge.
Just making your first build of X.org succeed takes a lot of time.

You'd do it for yourself. You can pay yourself if you want to... (but then again, you're just an angry user, not a programmer (?) )

Am I supposed to answer this? Pay myself? Are you high?

Can't take a little challenge, you wuss?

I can't recall when this discussion, beginning with my rather well-based (by experience) skepticism of ATI's drivers ever needed to become this hostile.
You lost the discussion, please, do it gracefully.
This is tasteless.
I have my challenge already, and it lies in Avivo, and I'm probably failing there since I haven't touched that code in a few weeks.

Again with the wussing. As of now, we know very little about AMD's open-source initiative. And even if they shifted all the work on us, it would be much better then what we had so far. They way I remember it, *many* people were asking for the shift (even you - "give it to x.org hackers" remember?!)

I very much prefer to be skeptical and share my skepticism and be proven wrong with a great driver, than shouting out how I love ATI and how they will save the world, and then get yet another crappy worseless driver which doesn't run on either:
* x86-64
* Moderm linux versions
* Modern X.org
* A computer with a black metal case and a blue power light
* In a room with only 1 window
* Any other obscure reason

I prefer positive surprises, over negative ones.

Fine be skeptical, I won't comment on your bitching anymore.

The comments you just made here, are the worst and most pathetic and tasteless I've seen in a long time. You probably shouldn't have sunk this low.

[Michael]

Look you two, just end it and stop fighting. There's no point to it. If you two think that fighting is the mature way of handling things, go create a new thread in the general discussion but don't taint this thread or any other on-topic ones.

[opera]

Look you two, just end it and stop fighting. There's no point to it. If you two think that fighting is the mature way of handling things, go create a new thread in the general discussion but don't taint this thread or any other on-topic ones.

Fine. Title: "The New Driver Is Out". *sounding like Peter when Cleveland says it's gonna be fun, s06e18*: It is?

[Stormking]

@opera:

You have every right to be skeptical about the new driver. For the last years, ATI has done everything to disappoint Linux users. They just have to earn back our trust by actually publishing a better driver instead of just talking about it.

But please stop turning this thread into an private war against people who just haven't learned to distinguish between marketing talk and facts.

[Thetargos]

As a former ATI owner, who jumped boat just because of the many driver issues, with the release of the information and numbers of the Phoronix articles in regards to fglrx 8.41, I must say I'm excited again about ATI on Linux. I don't know if I'll jump boat just yet, but definitely news worth keeping an eye on.

[Xipeos]

@opera:

You have every right to be skeptical about the new driver. For the last years, ATI has done everything to disappoint Linux users. They just have to earn back our trust by actually publishing a better driver instead of just talking about it.

But please stop turning this thread into an private war against people who just haven't learned to distinguish between marketing talk and facts.


Careful Stormking :)

In the beginning, all I said was "wait till the driver's out", and any statement on ati's greatness was based on Michael's preview. I sincerely doubt that Michael is lying to us.

[Michael]

Careful, Stormking :)

In the beginning, all I said was "wait till the driver's out", and any statements on ati's greatness were based on Michael's preview. I sincerely doubt Michael is lying to us.

I am certainly not lying to you about any of the information in any of the articles. I or no one else involved with Phoronix would ever do that. I have been using and testing this driver MANY times since July when I first began trying out this new driver. It is certainly a brand new experience on the ATI Linux front.

This afternoon I am publishing Mark Shuttleworth's thoughts on ATI's new Linux driver as well.

[Stormking]

I sincerely doubt that Michael is lying to us.
I don't think he's lying, too. But there could be differences in our opinions on what is an actual improvement.

For example: If XVideo on TV-Out still isn't working with 8.41, I'm done with ATI. This bug has been there for 20 months (!!!) , now. It worked before. I just can believe how anyone can break such an important feature and not fix it for such a long time!

[Kano]

Maybe he should delay Gutsy till the AIGLX driver ;) Waiting for that too... I am no real friend of the restricted modules package used in U. It should be splitted between optional graphics drivers and the rest as it would be much cleaner just to remove the outdated drivers completely. But when you need one of the other modules to go online that would be not so good...

[Svartalf]

Yes... always the skeptical one. You are right to be skeptical. I do hope the driver is true because it's sad for everyone to be built up based on false promises.

Heh... I've reasons to be skeptical. You do. Opera does (Heh... I'd offer advice to chill, but Michael's already done it...twice...). In the end, it's all about what have you done so far and what will you do in the future. If they do what Michael's implying they're about to do, AMD will make up for much of the wrongs of the company they bought. :D

[Svartalf]

This bug has been there for 20 months (!!!) , now. It worked before. I just can believe how anyone can break such an important feature and not fix it for such a long time!

Considering that they've not put much of any manpower on fixing/extending the Linux drivers for the old codebase, it's not at all surprising that something like this can go that way for so long. It's no different with Hypermemory. Without at least the dedicated portion of the Sideport/Hypermemory on an Xpress200M chipset, the chips as bad or worse than an Intel GMA 9xx part. They had THAT working right back ages ago, broke it, and never fixed it.

[Svartalf]

This afternoon I am publishing Mark Shuttleworth's thoughts on ATI's new Linux driver as well.

Heh... All you're doing is making me regret that I've not been in touch with my DevRel contacts over there to have had access to the betas at this point. That'll learn me, it will... :D

My take would be...

1) It's about time.
2) Great job AMD.
3) Keep doing it.
4) This is going to only help Linux Gaming and Workstation use.

[Stormking]

Considering that they've not put much of any manpower on fixing/extending the Linux drivers for the old codebase
I don't care if something like this happens because they haven't enough manpower or if they are simply incompetent. I'm not interested in excuses, I want results. Meaning a driver that lets me use the features of the hardware I bought.

it's not at all surprising that something like this can go that way for so long
It's not "not surprising", it's simply unacceptable.

[Svartalf]

I don't care if something like this happens because they haven't enough manpower or if they are simply incompetent. I'm not interested in excuses, I want results. Meaning a driver that lets me use the features of the hardware I bought.


Heh... That's why AMD was seeing the vitriol we were saving up JUST for ATI... >:-) :D I happen to hold the same attitude. I just wanted to make clear WHY this mess was the way it was.


It's not "not surprising", it's simply unacceptable.

Won't have me arguing that point. Read some of my commentary in the recent past in the threads on the subject. I don't consider the lack of AIGLX, XVideo, Hypermemory, and a few other things as acceptable- you will never find me thinking them anything other than unacceptable.

[Xipeos]

I'm not interested in excuses, I want results. Meaning a driver that lets me use the features of the hardware I bought.

It's not "not surprising", it's simply unacceptable.

Of course, Stormking, we all want working hardware.

I'd much more understand if a linux newbie complained about hardware support, but for you veterans it's really surprising. Even more so, considering that big companies only "recently" started caring about linux.

[Thetargos]

I don't care if something like this happens because they haven't enough manpower or if they are simply incompetent. I'm not interested in excuses, I want results. Meaning a driver that lets me use the features of the hardware I bought.


It's not "not surprising", it's simply unacceptable.

For the longest time (past three years, actually) I have been advocating that ATi and Linux don't mix well together. Hopefully AMD will prove us all who assumed this wrong, and start correcting the path. I can't expect miracles, but by the numbers at least one miracle has happened.

[Michael]

FYI. Working on an image quality comparison between NVIDIA and ATI in ET: Quake Wars.

[Stormking]

I'd much more understand if a linux newbie complained about hardware support, but for you veterans it's really surprising.
The poor quality of ATI's drivers was a shock for me. When I started using Linux (switching from Amiga), ATI graphics hardware was working fine under Linux. Than I had a NVidia card for some years and it was also working just fine.

So when I went buying a laptop, knowing that there was a linux driver for newer ATI chipsets was enough information for me. There was no reason to assume that it would be any different than it had always been: Working just fine. If I only had known the truth ...

[Michael]

AMD's Open-Source Strategy Explained

Rumors and speculations have been flying around for months about ATI/AMD opening up the source-code to their Linux display driver or providing their GPU specifications to community developers. This for the most part had started after Henri Richard's statement at the Red Hat Summit earlier this year. Well, those rumors can finally be put to rest. AMD will be providing NDA specifications, an open-source library, and there is a new open-source graphics driver as a result. AMD will continue producing a closed-source proprietary driver; however, they are opening the source-code to a critical library with accompanying GPU specifications for X.Org developers. To get the ball rolling, AMD is also funding the development of a new open-source R500/600 driver.

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=10979

[Alistair]

AMD's Open-Source Strategy Explained



http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=10979

Very Cool Beans -
I sincerely did not expect to have AMD/ATI drop their entire code tree on the world and call it Open Source -- (not even in my wildest) -- What I see here is that ATI is NDA'ing specific technology base information to the development community, and providing an api libary (effectively) that will allow FOSS code to issue consistent function calls to provide driver/application functionality for the display.

What I gather this will provide is that the kernel will now be able to carry a baseline working driver for R5xx R6xx chips in tree and allow that driver to follow normal kernel development process - with the eventual end result (Hopefully) being a baseline 'it just works outta da box' R500/R600 driver in kernel - if you want the bells and whistles ( perhaps as we've seen requests for XV on TV-out, or hypermemory, or extended video modes or enhanced FSAA etc etc) you go get the fglrx driver -- but at least you can build your system with a working in kernel driver first....


Now Michael, Last question,.... where's my copy of the new driver hiding??? :D

Truely the only bit I'm missing at this point is .. when is official date/time of driver release?? I've seen 'early next week' which may work if its monday as I'll still be on vacation -- but if its tuesday I'm not gonna be happy -- my first day back after a week off is usually a 21 hour day....

[Michael]

8.41.8 will be released probably Monday or Tuesday of next week.

The baseline open-source driver will be out on September 10 (unless it changes).

[Alistair]

8.41.8 will be released probably Monday or Tuesday of next week.

The baseline open-source driver will be out on September 10 (unless it changes).

*sigh* no preview copy for me to test agp on for ya eh??? ;)

I'm impressed that they will be dropping the OpenSource driver on the 10th -- thats pretty quick -- any chance of laying your hands on that and parking it up against the fglrx stats you've accumlated for 8.41?
And how soon before its in kernel?

[Michael]

I'm impressed that they will be dropping the OpenSource driver on the 10th -- thats pretty quick -- any chance of laying your hands on that and parking it up against the fglrx stats you've accumlated for 8.41?
And how soon before its in kernel?

Expect a day full of articles on the 10th about the driver. It still needs a lot of work and a while before it's in the kernel.

[hubick]

I think it's great that ATI is enabling the creation of Free/Open drivers! This certainly means they will get my business over NVidia.

The real question now is, will they get my business over Intel? With such heavy involvement in X.org, paying employees to create Free drivers and improve global infrastructure, I think Intel is still the best long term choice for Linux users.

I would like to see reviews of the latest hardware among totally Free/Open drivers. I want to know:
- Which is the most stable and functional for the desktop.
- Who is the first to support new functionality and X extensions needed by the changing desktop (I only upgrade with my distro == every 6 months min - who is going to get features in before the distro cut-off).
- Who has the best out-of-the-box (in-the-kernel) experience. I just want to install it and forget it (and have it work).
- Is the performance adequate for plain desktop usage?
- What about if I add any effects?
- Lastly, how about gaming usage?

[Raven3x7]

BTW September 10th is the barcelona launch day aswell

[Thetargos]

In cases like Free drivers, is when all that third party licenses get applied to the hardware. That really hinders Free drivers and renders them to be subpar, and depending your application needs, useless. I don't think we'll have Free drivers be able to play the latest and greatest of games, even if they have a Linux port (*cough*ETQW*cough*). The amount of third party IP embedded into graphics chipsets is immense and could very well mean the difference in performance (and features).

[Kano]

I would like to see the benchmarks of a NV 8800 GTS (maybe GTX/Ultra too, just these are more expensive) card against 2900XT, a NV 8600 GT was maybe enough before, but now it should be compared against same price hardware. The 640 MB GTS should be similar from price.

[niniendowarrior]

Seems like AMD is doing one right step after another. Until it materializes, we'll see.

And 8.41 should be an interesting driver release, maybe enough to compell me to fire up my Fedora box and try to fix my driver. Of course, if it doesn't work, I will again fall under the hate wagon. :D

Helping open source is going to be cool. If I hold on to my x800 long enough, open source drivers should be able tod o 3d acceleration on it without fglrx. :p

[Malikith]

Seems like AMD is doing one right step after another. Until it materializes, we'll see.

And 8.41 should be an interesting driver release, maybe enough to compell me to fire up my Fedora box and try to fix my driver. Of course, if it doesn't work, I will again fall under the hate wagon. :D

Helping open source is going to be cool. If I hold on to my x800 long enough, open source drivers should be able tod o 3d acceleration on it without fglrx. :p

Hmm, I thought the x800 (r400) already had 3d acceleration with the open source radeon driver.. I might be wrong but I thought it did.

I went and did a quick lookup to find proof and yeah it does.

ATI Radeon X800XL (R400)

While the R400 series is just an extension of the R300 class these faster GPUs offer a much more pleasing experience with desktop eye candy. Using an ATI Radeon X800XL 256MB (resolution at 1680×1050), which is one of the fastest graphics cards right now with open-source X.Org drivers, it had performed extremely well. The desktop while idling and during basic desktop usage was always over 200 FPS and the lowest that the frame-rate had ever dropped during heavy usage was to about 25 FPS. Other system components had included dual Intel Xeon Clovertown quad-core processors and 4GB of RAM with Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn.

http://spearhead.wordpress.com/2007/05/28/gpus-beryl-what-is-needed/

From the sounds of it, it sounds pretty decent with the open source driver.

Or do you mean x1800?

[niniendowarrior]

Hmm, I thought the x800 (r400) already had 3d acceleration with the open source radeon driver.. I might be wrong but I thought it did.

I went and did a quick lookup to find proof and yeah it does.



http://spearhead.wordpress.com/2007/05/28/gpus-beryl-what-is-needed/

From the sounds of it, it sounds pretty decent with the open source driver.

Or do you mean x1800?

Heh. Hope for that on a Fedora Core 4 box with no online updates?

[Michael]

This week has been extremely exciting to say the least. We started by telling you about the AMD 8.41 Display Driver which is largely rewritten and offers Radeon HD 2000 product support, performance improvements, and soon will support AIGLX. Four articles looking at the R300/400, R500, and R600 performance under Linux followed that preview. Then yesterday we told you about AMD's new open-source strategy for supporting Linux and the open-source community. Well, what do we have for you today? With the 8.41 display driver we have completed some additional benchmarks using the Radeon HD 2400PRO 256MB and Radeon HD 2600PRO 256MB graphics cards. In this article, we see if these two mid-range ATI Radeon HD 2000 graphics cards are able to compete against NVIDIA's GeForce 8 series.

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=10989

[ClintZ28]

I bought a Radeon 9600 a long time back. Expected there to be good driver support in Linux since ATI had it listed as a supported device in Linux. I use Linux solely on my system and since their drivers are so terrible, I haven't been able to use the GPU since I bought it. Such a waste. ATI you have failed me miserably. It's way late to make good, but you guys better get on the ball. My next card purchase will come in November. If this new driver doesn't deliver, forget about me buying another ATI card.

Sorry....had to vent....I'm running a Nvidia GeForce 2 MX because it's faster than my non-supported ATI Radeon 9600. Pathetic.

[glussier]

Sorry....had to vent....I'm running a Nvidia GeForce 2 MX because it's faster than my non-supported ATI Radeon 9600. Pathetic.


Funny, I have 2 systems running Linux with 9600pro, 1 Fedora7 and the other Debian etch. I never had a problem installing the fglrx drivers on both of these systems.

[Thetargos]

Rather than ranting about the drivers back when I decided to go from 9500 to an nVidia GeForce FX 5900 back then, I simply took the plunge. I hope to buy ATi hardware again, I certainly do.

[ClintZ28]

Funny, I have 2 systems running Linux with 9600pro, 1 Fedora7 and the other Debian etch. I never had a problem installing the fglrx drivers on both of these systems.


Please share how you were able to get it to work. Downgrading the kernel so that it will work with the driver seems to be a must. I've have done so, and had it compile. But, I can't get it to load...get an operation not permitted error. Did some reading and found that Debian's tools do not support the non-free driver, and I needed to install restricted-manager to override this. restricted-manager is no available for Debian, but is in ubuntu. If I try to install the ubuntu version, I get tons of dependency issues that can't be easily resolved. How where you able to load them? I've been getting and error about DRI not loaded...if not that one, then something about GLX not supported...it's been a while since I've tried it, but I know I've easily spent 40 hours working on it over the last 2 years...the driver is terrible.

[d2kx]

su
apt-get install module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debconf bzip2 libstdc++5
sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Debian/etch
m-a prepare
m-a update
m-a a-i fglrx
depmod -a
<editor> /etc/X11/xorg.conf (vesa = fglrx)

I've never really had any problems installing fglrx.

[djdoo]

HA HA!!

I really would like to see the nvidia's devs faces when saw the benchmarks with the new 8.41 and ATI cards generally compared with their cards and drivers!!!:p

We have serious problems with nvidia drivers at Compiz-Fusion!:mad:

They have 2 major blocker bugs (I am sure most of you have heard of them...) It's the black windows bug and the what I named the Frozen Bug!!

The frozen bug came to the nvidia users as a surpise with the 100.14.xx drivers...
The system freezes on logout restart and shutdown when using Compiz-Fusion.

The 8500-8600 users have to use the 100.14.11 driver so they have to face the Frozen bug!

But I was really surprised when saw that ATI performance overcomed clearly the much more expensive nvidia cards in linux with the new 8.41 driver!

AMD also scored by opensourcing the old code!

Compiz-Fusion community will be very anxious waiting for the 8.42 driver to come and finally our ATI friends will be able to use AIGLX!!

And that day nvidia would be really overcomed in linux and I will buy an ATI graphics card!

I am really tired waiting for these nvidia fools to fix the bugs for Fusion at their drivers for much more than a year.

As I used to tell them at nvnews (and banned me for that) AMD will smash you and you just telling us that you will fix the black windows bug in a few months!!!
If you are arogant you will pay the price one day...

So best wishes and keep up the great work folks informing us for the latest greatest news!!:cool:

Jim

[StringCheesian]

AMD also scored by opensourcing the old code!
From what's been reported it sounds like the open source driver won't be based on the old code.

[d2kx]

I've read that the Xorg Server 1.4 accelerates GL_texture_from_pixmap. Does that improve performance with Compiz? Debian/sid will have the Xorg Server 1.4 next week and I think my card is fast enough for AIGLX/Compiz (AMD Radeon X1900 XT 512), but I am still wondering.

[djdoo]

From what's been reported it sounds like the open source driver won't be based on the old code.
Really? Maybe I got it wrong but anyway whatever code they opensource will be a great move!;)

And btw if it is something newer than old code it will be better than the old code...at least we hope so...

[d2kx]

It isn't the new code as in 8.41, it is new code that hasn't been used before.

[Thetargos]

We have serious problems with nvidia drivers at Compiz-Fusion!:mad:

They have 2 major blocker bugs (I am sure most of you have heard of them...) It's the black windows bug and the what I named the Frozen Bug!!

The frozen bug came to the nvidia users as a surpise with the 100.14.xx drivers...

The Frozen Bug is a bug that was actually present in older nVidia drivers particularly for the GeForce 4 series (1.0-2966 or some such) which was more like random, while the present bug (though its presentation is virtually the same) seems to be only when closing down the server. I consider this to be a regression and it is present in a variety of hardware (from GeForce FX cards to the latest G80 models). Being an FX user I have the benefit of being able to use older drivers, but newer cards don't have such benefit, particularly those whose support was first introduced in the 1.0-100 series of drivers.

I have not had the "Black Window" bug (yet), but I still have Beryl installed instead of Fusion, so maybe Beryl doesn't expose it as much, however I've seen the problem in the past with older drivers.

I don't mean to bash nVidia, but they sure have taken their sweet time to fix these problems (and others) with their drivers. Still their drivers are "good enough" for most applications and users (maybe that's why they've taken so long?). At any rate, I don't mean nor want to turn this thread into an NV Vs ATI/AMD or Us Vs Them thread. I think AMD's labor of opening up the drivers, offering at last a much improved driver and the plans for the future in adding more features, only can speak well for AMD/ATI. In the end, it is us the consumers who are the real beneficiaries of all these efforts.

[oliver]

Micheal,

Though we are all anxious for the driver, my mediacenter is kinda curious if bug #309 (http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=309) is fixed?

XV with ONLY the TV connected (I have a 9550 AGP) results in only half the overlay area is being used by about 2/3 - 3/4 of the video.

[Svartalf]

From what's been reported it sounds like the open source driver won't be based on the old code.

You would probably not want it in the first place... It's pretty busted up compared to the stuff in the 8.41 driver base. They're giving us a 2D driver core with the ability to pile on the Mesa/DRI stuff from what I understand, along with some technical assistance and financial backing from them.

[ClintZ28]

su
apt-get install module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debconf bzip2 libstdc++5
sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Debian/etch
m-a prepare
m-a update
m-a a-i fglrx
depmod -a
<editor> /etc/X11/xorg.conf (vesa = fglrx)

I've never really had any problems installing fglrx.

I'm just remembering that I've tried that a few times...tried it again with Kernel 2.6.20...got pages of errors.

[Porse]

Have you triedEnvy (http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html)? I've used it on 2.6.20(-16, Ubuntu) with no problems at all.

[mjordan]

So it's past the 10th and past Monday and Tuesday... here's a very excited linux user with a new HD2600XT wondering if the drivers are available yet?

[Thetargos]

Hmm... maybe in a few more hours? I don't know at what usually ATI releases their drivers...

[ltmon]

So it's past the 10th and past Monday and Tuesday... here's a very excited linux user with a new HD2600XT wondering if the drivers are available yet?

This was published a couple of days ago.

http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5050&page=6

So, Wednesday seems to be the day.

[adam.tropics]

So, Wednesday seems to be the day.

Wednesdays about over already here! (Oz)

[ashrack]

Wednesdays about over already here! (Oz)

here its only 11am in the morning.
So for us ATI still has lots of time

[Hamburger1984]

can't wait for it.. hope they release soon!!

[Malikith]

can't wait for it.. hope they release soon!!

Yep today is the day, a day that I thought would had never had come. I'm guessing it'll be released in about 3-6 more hours from now, but who knows.

[mile]

they found new bugs :D

[Ralle]

When will it be available?
Michael would know.

[Malikith]

When will it be available?
Michael would know.

He said Wednesday (Today), it might already had been released just hasn't been put up on the AMD site yet. Thats happened before, if it is Michael will tell us.

[Ralle]

I seriously can't wait!
It will (hopefully) improve the performance of compiz-fusion on my laptop a lot!

[Michael]

The minute the new driver is available you will know at Phoronix and in the forums :)

[Stormking]

The minute the new driver is available you will know at Phoronix and in the forums :)
Any idea when this minute will come? I mean, is Wednesday still the day? This Wednesday?

[Michael]

Any idea when this minute will come? I mean, is Wednesday still the day? This Wednesday?

It should come within the next three to four hours.

[Alistair]

It should come within the next three to four hours.

/me holds breath

[adam.tropics]

It should come within the next three to four hours.

Oh...long night ahead then!! May I suggest we throw a collective sicky tomorrow...things to do you know!!!

[enzobelmont]

oh man if we've awaited an entire life,

three hours are nothing.....



aaaahhhggggg!!!!!

[gzahl]

I...neeeed....8.41 :-)
But im sure, if i have 8.41 installed and running, i cant wait to get 8.42 :-) XGl sucks.
mau!

[d2kx]

Please remember that this is the first driver with the new codebase. If you're having bugs, there is a good chance that they get fixed in 8.42 or later. Don't post "AMD sucks" when you have one new bug. Why I am posting this? Because I bet some people will be posting "AMD doesn't care for community support - I have a new bug!!1111".

I would say it's 3.5h from now but Michael said it comes a bit earlier... let's see.

[Snake]

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/64bit/ati-driver-installer-8.41.7-x86.x86_64.run

[Stormking]

It's out!

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.41.7-x86.x86_64.run

Download page still links to 8.40.x, but my link works. It's about 49MB in size.

[Michael]

This thread is now being closed.

8.41.7 Thread: http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5193