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benneque
11-05-2007, 01:07 PM
my question is: has anyone compiz (aiglx) running with an ati radeon 9600xt , xorgserver 1.4 and fglrx 8.42 ? (i use 32bit gentoo)
i've installed the fglrx driver using the ati-installer. worked fine so far! glxgears is running fine, i have dri and all that stuff running. Xv is also running fine.
My only problem is aiglx and compiz! i use the xeffects overlay.
installed programs:
kde 3.5.8
x11-wm/compiz-0.6.2 USE="dbus kde svg -fuse -gnome -gtk"
x11-wm/compiz-fusion-0.6.0 USE="kde -gnome -unsupported"

when i try to start compiz it says that direct rendering isn't possible, and then it tries to switch to indirect rendering, but that isn't possible as well.

Xorg.0.log has always these strange messages (don't know what they mean):

(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
(WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported
(WW) fglrx(0): Only one display is connnected,so single mode is enabled
(WW) fglrx(0): could not detect X server version (query_status=-3)
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x24
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x25
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x26
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x27
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x28
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x29
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2a
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2b
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2c
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2d
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2e
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2f
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x30
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x31
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x32
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x33
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x34
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x35
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x36
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x37
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x38
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x39
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x3a
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x3b
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x3c
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x3d
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x3e
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x3f
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x40
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x41
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x42
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x43
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x44
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x45
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x46
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x47
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x48
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x49
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4a
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4c
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4d
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4e
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4f
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x50
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x51
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x52
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x53
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x54
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x55
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x56
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x57
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x58
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x59
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5a
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5c
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5d
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5e
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5f
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x60
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x61
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x62
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x63
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x64
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x65
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x66
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x67
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x68
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x69
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x6a
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x6b
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x6c
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x6d
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x6e
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x6f
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x70
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x71
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x72


this is the rest of the more or less important messages:

(==) fglrx(0): Backing store disabled
(II) Loading extension FGLRXEXTENSION
(**) fglrx(0): Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
(II) fglrx(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA)
(II) fglrx(0): Acceleration enabled
(II) fglrx(0): [DRI] installation complete
(II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering enabled
(II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so


i hope someone can solve my problems ... i also tried a lot of different options in the xorg.conf... but there are always these "AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual" messages..


thank you!
chabo
11-05-2007, 02:14 PM
downgrade to xorg-server 1.3
add to /etc/portage/package.use:
x11-libs/libX11 xcb
x11-libs/cairo glitz svg png

LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=true fusion-icon
benneque
11-05-2007, 02:53 PM
what's the easiest way to downgrade xorg ?
when i put xorg-server 1.4 into package.mask and xorg-7.3 there are some errors because of dependencies...
chabo
11-05-2007, 03:55 PM
It's some problems in portage, but try:

emerge =libXrender-0.9.4
emerge libX11
emerge =xorg-server-1.3

emerge xf86-input-keyboard
emerge xf86-input-mouse
emerge xf86-input-evdev
benneque
11-05-2007, 04:09 PM
thanks.. i'll give it a try
givemesugarr
11-05-2007, 04:12 PM
that thing is present also on xorg-server 1.3 which i'm using.
so there's no need to downgrade xorg for some warnings.
compiz tend to not work well (very slow and some apps bugs).
if it fails are you sure that you've enabled everything that need to be enabled?! can you post your device, modules, serverlayout, dri and extensions section from xorg.conf?! maybe you've forgotten to enable something.
chabo
11-05-2007, 04:19 PM
that thing is present also on xorg-server 1.3 which i'm using.
so there's no need to downgrade xorg for some warnings.
compiz tend to not work well (very slow and some apps bugs).
if it fails are you sure that you've enabled everything that need to be enabled?! can you post your device, modules, serverlayout, dri and extensions section from xorg.conf?! maybe you've forgotten to enable something.
yes, but i think compiz doesn't work on xorg-server-1.4 at all.
givemesugarr
11-05-2007, 04:40 PM
what compiz version are you using?! you should use the xeffects version 0.6.2. that's the only one that works on my board, but is damn slow...
beryl, instead prett fast...
and these were my flags:
dbus -fuse -gnome -gtk kde svg -xcb. remember the svg flag which is fundamental for compiz to work. as well put it on cairo. i've put it ad world flag since is useful to have the packages compiled with it.
and since you use kde, try beryl, which is faster and doesn't needs some gnome bindings that compiz-fusion needs.
chabo
11-06-2007, 01:43 AM
for me AIGLX + xorg-server-1.4 = no chance :)
givemesugarr
11-06-2007, 04:33 AM
do you have this in your xorg.conf?

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "on"
Option "IgnoreABI" "on"
Option "AIGLX" "on"
EndSection

ignoreabi and aiglx are needed to run fglrx and 3d desktop on 1.3 and later.
Kano
11-06-2007, 05:12 AM
IgnoreABI is no option for xorg.conf. The option is "-ignoreABI". It is for startx, in kdmrc ,gdmrc or xdm/servers and needed for OLDER fglrx drivers and Xserver 1.4 (Xorg 7.3). Also AIGLX "on" is not a requirement for the new fglrx driver as usually every X server is set to AIGLX on by default.
givemesugarr
11-06-2007, 08:32 AM
The option is "-ignoreABI". It is for startx, in kdmrc ,gdmrc or xdm/servers and needed for OLDER fglrx drivers and Xserver 1.4 (Xorg 7.3).

my server doesn't start without it...

as for the aiglx, on gentoo you can enable or disable as flag. this option sets it to on for sure.
chikazuku
11-06-2007, 03:01 PM
Also AIGLX "on" is not a requirement for the new fglrx driver as usually every X server is set to AIGLX on by default.

It's the opposite on OpenSUSE. AIGLX is set to off by default.

I'm having the same messages on my xpress 1100/200M. AIGLX is reported as working, however compiz segfaults.
givemesugarr
11-07-2007, 03:58 AM
It's the opposite on OpenSUSE. AIGLX is set to off by default.

because opensuse by default gets with the xf-86-ati-drivers and not with the fgrlx and the default driver doesn't support aiglx for all ati boards and also they don't really support all the drivers. for that reason sax2 turns off aiglx and 3d acceleration setting the default to vesa with only 2d.
but if it recognizes the board and the driver supports the various features, 3d and aiglx it enables it by default.
Kano
11-07-2007, 07:59 PM
why do you need fglrx for aiglx on your old hardware? thats not needed at all to have aiglx.
givemesugarr
11-08-2007, 03:25 AM
why do you need fglrx for aiglx on your old hardware? thats not needed at all to have aiglx.

the opensource drivers have aiglx but on some boards don't support compiz/beryl and are slower in performance than than the last 2 releases of fglrx.
chabo
11-08-2007, 09:57 AM
do you have this in your xorg.conf?



ignoreabi and aiglx are needed to run fglrx and 3d desktop on 1.3 and later.
I have working AIGLX on xorg-server-1.3 with latest compiz but as I said xorg-server-1.4 + AIGLX = no chance
benneque
11-11-2007, 06:21 AM
hey!!
i got i finally working! very nice!
i'd say compiz runs smoothe, but there are some things that doesn't work... i can't watch videos or dvb while compiz is running, there a very strange distortions in the picture (i use kaffeine and vdr with xineliboutput)
another problem is that resizing windows takes nearly 100% cpu usage, that sucks much.
one more: scrolling is slow.. i use konqueror, but it's far away from being smoothe ;)

so my questions are:
how can i get working video playback?
and:
which options should i use in my xorg.conf?
i tried a few, compiz was always running right, but i hope there are some options to improve the performance a bit ;)

here my xorg.conf (important parts):

Section "Module"
Load "dbe"
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga"
EndSubSection
# Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
# Load "xtt"
# Load "glx"
Load "dri"
EndSection


Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "on"
Option "IgnoreABI" "on"
Option "AIGLX" "on"
EndSection


Section "Device"
Identifier "Device0"
Driver "fglrx"
# Option "DRI" "true"
Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
# Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
# Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
# Option "TripleBuffer" "true"
Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
# Option "TexturedVideo" "True"
Option "backingstore" "true"
Option "UseFastTLS" "2"
Option "BusType" "AGP"
Option "AGPMode" "8"
Option "EnablePageFlip" "1"
EndSection


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Simple Layout"

Screen "Screen 1"

InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
Option "AIGLX" "true"
EndSection


Section "DRI"
Group 0
Mode 0666
EndSection


Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection




EDIT: a few seconds ago i tried to run glxgears, yes, of course it ran, but it had also these distortions (something like flickering)...
givemesugarr
11-11-2007, 08:52 AM
i can't watch videos or dvb while compiz is running, there a very strange distortions in the picture (i use kaffeine and vdr with xineliboutput)

manually set the output method to xv.

Option "UseFastTLS" "2"
this should be 0. else it could give you problems with some apps.

# Load "glx"
this shoudl be uncommented since should be loaded.

remove this:
Option "EnablePageFlip" "1"
could give problems with video playing.

set this
Option "backingstore" "true"
to false or off.

add "Damage" "true"in the extension section.
and this in the device section:

Option "HWCursor" "On"
benneque
11-11-2007, 08:56 AM
uh. thanks.. so many things, i'll test it in a few minutes


EDIT: sooo.... video still doesn't work! i use XV and the screen ist just darkblue, nothing happens, it just stays blue.
have i to use the texturedvideo option ? or what is it for ?

EDIT2: with xshm i can watch it, but when i have fullscreen it stutters and has artifacts... opengl out put doesn't work at all... just xshm , please help me :D
givemesugarr
11-11-2007, 09:14 AM
have i to use the texturedvideo option

hmm, give it a try. i don't know what it does, but it may be the case. i don't have these problems on beryl.
i don't use compiz since is tooo slooow and tends to be unsable on my x200