New Adobe Flash Player 9 Linux Release [Archive]

phoronix

12-04-2007, 08:40 AM

Phoronix: New Adobe Flash Player 9 Linux Release

Following the series of Adobe Flash Player 9 Linux betas over the past year (news announcements), the Adobe folks have unleashed the Flash Player 9 Update 3 Final build. This update is not only available for Windows and Mac OS X, but a new Linux build was released on the same day.

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NjIzNA

epoch

12-04-2007, 09:24 AM

dickeywang

12-04-2007, 10:35 AM

I don't know what they did with this version, but it is really slow while playing youtube videos under full-screen using this version of flashplayer in my Ubuntu Gutsy box.

jlward4th

12-04-2007, 11:27 AM

I don't know what they did with this version, but it is really slow while playing youtube videos under full-screen using this version of flashplayer in my Ubuntu Gutsy box.

Right-click on the video, select settings, and turn off (or on) "Enable Hardware Acceleration". This update to Flash Player adds hardware acceleration for full screen video. If hardware acceleration isn't working in X then perhaps Flash Player is using X's software acceleration which is pretty slow. Let me know if that helps.

-James (Adobe)

Vadi

12-04-2007, 12:02 PM

Thanks Adobe!

Pseus

12-04-2007, 01:09 PM

*sigh*

Still no 64bit release? Shameful. nspluginwrapper works bout 80% of the time, and to hell with running a chroot.
Seconded.

(Blah blah, 10 chars).

jlward4th

12-04-2007, 01:20 PM

*sigh*

Still no 64bit release? Shameful. nspluginwrapper works bout 80% of the time, and to hell with running a chroot.

Has anyone tried nspluginwrapper with this release? I'd be interested to hear feedback on how well it works.

-James (Adobe)

Mark

12-04-2007, 02:20 PM

The new features are excellent, but x-embed is still much slower than the previous method on my 2.4Ghz P4. I can no longer play back a lot of high res flash movies without juddering, so back to the previous versions for me. That said, it's not really adobe's (or mozilla's) fault, although perhaps a poor choice, the blame lies more with x.org.

Great to see H264 and AAC out there, let's hope devs make good use of them.

Edit: I ought to mention, i have hardware accelleration on, although I thought that option did nothing under Linux?
On my linux machine at work, which is much faster, the plugin runs great, speed wise. The GTK menus are a nice touch too!
Don't forget that although the xembed API is better, until it's much more optimised, it's just too slow for people on older hardware.

dickeywang

12-04-2007, 05:43 PM

Right-click on the video, select settings, and turn off (or on) "Enable Hardware Acceleration". This update to Flash Player adds hardware acceleration for full screen video. If hardware acceleration isn't working in X then perhaps Flash Player is using X's software acceleration which is pretty slow. Let me know if that helps.

-James (Adobe)

Thanks for the suggestion. Turning on/off the hardware acceleration doesn't make any difference(I tried more than 5 times, with or without restart firefox). I am having the Nvidia 100.14.19 driver installed on my Thinkpad T61p(Quadro FX 570M), and glxinfo shows

direct rendering: Yes

I wanted to try the newest 169.04 driver to see if it makes difference, but it seems Envy hasn't included it yet.

Any other ideas?

Kano

12-04-2007, 06:35 PM

Well it seems envy has a problem to be uptodate ;) My nvidia script is usually working 5 min after I know of a new driver *g*

http://kanotix.com/files/install-nvidia-debian.sh

Svartalf

12-04-2007, 06:50 PM

Well it seems envy has a problem to be uptodate ;) My nvidia script is usually working 5 min after I know of a new driver *g*

http://kanotix.com/files/install-nvidia-debian.sh

Heh... We'd expect a distribution developer to get it working easily... ;)

Oxydius

12-05-2007, 04:23 AM

Has anyone tried nspluginwrapper with this release? I'd be interested to hear feedback on how well it works.

-James (Adobe)

Hi James,

I just did and it works with nspluginwrapper on Gentoo amd64. It's just as responsive with/without hardware acceleration and CPU usage remains at ~15% on YouTube. What is it supposed to accelerate?
It seems a bit more prone to hang in infinite loops (using all CPU), but on the upside, killing the npviewer.bin process now allows the Flash plugin to recover without restarting Firefox; nice! :)

oneman

12-05-2007, 02:01 PM

I'm not sure whats going on, but on my box and my friends box this flash is way slower, pages with lots of flash embeds on them chunk near to a halt. Fullscreen is unusable. Same bad performance in firefox 2 and 3 beta, with or without hardware accell and with or without compiz fusion.

I feel like this is typical. I'm sure its fixable but we both downgraded back to the old release. Sigh.

And yes I'm using nvidia binary and direct rendering and the whole nine yards is set up correctly.

dickeywang

12-06-2007, 02:22 AM

Well it seems envy has a problem to be uptodate ;) My nvidia script is usually working 5 min after I know of a new driver *g*

http://kanotix.com/files/install-nvidia-debian.sh

Hoho, thanks a lot! The script works really well. :D
Although, the new flashplayer still runs very slow on full-screen youtube video even with the new nvidia driver installed.:(

oyvind

12-22-2007, 10:02 PM

My biggest gripe with this new release is the huge performance loss compared to stable 9.0r48. I simply cannot accept web pages consuming 100%+ CPU just because of Flash-ads. I went back to 9.0r48...

Mark

12-28-2007, 05:17 AM

It is dreadfully slow, see this thread -> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2007/12/flash_player_9_update_3_final.html

r48 is the best release so far. A real shame because there is some excellent work going on in the flash world by the devs, for example, h264 and multi-core rendering.

d2kx

12-28-2007, 07:20 AM

I noticed slow performance with the fglrx driver. After setting the experimental options "Textured2D" and "TexturedXrender", it was really fast again.

oyvind

12-28-2007, 09:10 AM

I noticed slow performance with the fglrx driver. After setting the experimental options "Textured2D" and "TexturedXrender", it was really fast again.

Hey, cool suggestion. I've tried it, but I don't see any difference .. 9.0r115 is the same performance-wise, even with "Textured2D" and "TexturedXrender" options enabled. Granted, my testing is crude, but it's really only interesting if it makes a real-world visible change for the better.

This might also be due to the fact that I am still using fglrx 8.40.4 (because of problems with certain wide-screen resolutions in 7.12). The 8.40.4 driver has those options in it, but if they're even functional in that release.. I don't know.

[Ubuntu Gutsy 32bit, Firefox, Core Duo, ATI X1400 mobile]

d2kx

12-28-2007, 09:43 AM

I would suggest using the Catalyst 7.11 driver release. Did you experience any problems with that one? I think the Textured2D and TexturedXrender options have not really been implemented with 8.40.4.

oyvind

12-28-2007, 04:35 PM

I would suggest using the Catalyst 7.11 driver release. Did you experience any problems with that one? I think the Textured2D and TexturedXrender options have not really been implemented with 8.40.4.

Yep, but unfortunately there has been serious issues, bugs and problems with every single release after 8.40.4 on my ATI chipset (X1400, r5xx).

However, I'm certain that the options have some kind of effect in 8.40.4, since render_bench shows an enourmous increase in performance for non-scaled blending through XRender. It's fast, but the colours are all wrong :).

I guess I'll be trying these options with 8.1 (or whatever version number the next fglrx release will have).