The HANS REISER Murder Trial. Timeline and Analysis.

[lenrek]

So no one has any violent disagreement with this statement?

Well... Maybe no one cares...

[Jade]

Well... Maybe no one cares...
You seem to.....

[Jade]

The sentencing of a clearly innocent man will occur June 9.

[Kano]

Maybe you did not get that he is not innocent because he knows where his wife is - or at least her dead body...

[d2kx]

Yep, I've read that, too. When he knows where his wife is... then he can't be innocent.

[Aradreth]

A link to the story if anyone cares http://osnews.com/story/19839/Hans-Reiser-Offers-To-Lead-Cops-to-Ninas-Body

Anyway the conspiracy theories can be but to rest hopefully, although there is always one person that wont take the hint... "zomg the moon landing was fake!"

[deanjo]

A link to the story if anyone cares http://osnews.com/story/19839/Hans-Reiser-Offers-To-Lead-Cops-to-Ninas-Body

Anyway the conspiracy theories can be but to rest hopefully, although there is always one person that wont take the hint... "zomg the moon landing was fake!"


There is no moon, it's a giant spy satellite that the ancient mayans launched.

[MamiyaOtaru]

If he keeps posting about Reiser's innocence I think it's safe to say he's nothing but a troll. I mean,before, I could accept that he might actually believe what he's saying but now is either the time to STFU about it or make it super obvious he's just trolling. It's nice to finally be able to close the book on this one, though obviously it sucks for all involved.

[Aradreth]

There is no moon, it's a giant spy satellite that the ancient mayans launched.
Personally I always thought it was a great big wheel of cheese, neither of which would a moon landing though.

[deanjo]

If he keeps posting about Reiser's innocence I think it's safe to say he's nothing but a troll. I mean,before, I could accept that he might actually believe what he's saying but now is either the time to STFU about it or make it super obvious he's just trolling. It's nice to finally be able to close the book on this one, though obviously it sucks for all involved.

The forum has a lovely "Ignore user" function in your control panel. It works great.

[Moronix]

haha, pwned (the guy trolling)

[lenrek]

Well, you never know, he/she may come back with another name.

[Redeeman]

Yep, I've read that, too. When he knows where his wife is... then he can't be innocent.
Well.. he COULD still be, allthough it really is looking like he is guilty now :)

[Jade]

This crap about Reiser offering to lead cops to Nina's body,... is exactly that,... crap.

It first surfaced 4 or 5 weeks ago.

It was called rumor back then and nothing has changed since.

Here is what legal analyst Michael Cardoza had to say (on April 29, 2008):

Cardoza dismissed speculation that Reiser would reveal where the body was as part of any deal. "How does it benefit the district attorney? How does it benefit the family to know how he disposed of the body? You're going to take it from 25 to life what, down to a second, 15 to life? No. You want to tell where the body is, tell where the body is. If you don't, they've got the first-degree conviction. They'll live with that. They will not bargain that away."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/localnews/detail?blogid=37&entry_id=26081

The P.O.S., David Kravets, writes completely biased trash for http://blog.wired.com. His article is the only supposedly reputable source of this (now old) lie.

All the Linux sites point back to this wired article.

[Moronix]

hahahaha, now he pwns himself.

[Jade]

hahahaha, now he pwns himself.
I'm finally curious enough about it to ask what "pwns" means.

[Huenengrab]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwn

You can add the meaning of the "s" at the end byself, can you?

[ronybeck]

I'm finally curious enough about it to ask what "pwns" means.

Pwned comes from "owned". It means you got your arse kicked. Usually a gamer term though. I am sure there are other meanings for it as well.

Example usage might be: "You got pwned!"

[Jade]

Why Microsoft lackeys hated Hans Reiser.
From the kernel mailing list:
Sat, 26 Oct 2002 06:42:24 +0400

(seems Hans already knew Reiser4 was a killer-product in 2002)

Rob Landley wrote:

> Reiser4 is probably in this category as well, since Reiser3 went into
> the 2.4 stable series and Reiser4 claims to be a seperate filesystem
> (like EXT2 and EXT3). Add in the fact that Hans Reiser still hasn't
> produced a patch yet, and the decision's pretty easy. (If you disagree,
> yell out now...)
>

We will probably release a "very beta" not intended for inclusion on the 27th, and ship a patch for inclusion on Halloween before midnight in some time zone. In the version we will ship on Sunday, reads are only 50% faster than ext2/3 for reading the linux kernel source tree. We have an old kernel in which reads are 105% faster when reading one copy of the linux kernel tree. The delay until Halloween is so that we can figure out why reads were faster in the old kernel, and hopefully make them 105% faster in the newest version of the code.

Not sure you want to ship a 3.0 without it. It is 50-150% faster than V3, which makes it a significant competitive advantage. I forget how much faster writes are, something well over 100% faster, and the newest version is faster yet.

How do I put it. I'm the last straggler coming back from the hunt, and I've got what looks like it might be a wooly mammoth on my shoulders, and my tribesmen are complaining that I'm late for dinner. How about helping me by cutting down a tree for the roasting spit instead? Think thoughts of the poor hungry Microsoft tribe eating NTFS.

Think thoughts of Microsoft suits going into some corporate board room explaining that Windows is worth paying for because of the value add, and some guy in sandals in the back suggests that the company could replace all its 15k rpm SCSI hard drives with 5400rpm IDE drives, and Linux would still be much faster than using NTFS.

Think thoughts of Microsoft's OFS catching up to ext2 at long last (surely it will, with all the money they have spent to hire people), and then discovering Windows still offers negative value add filesystem performance-wise.

Oh, and it has features too, not just performance....

Hans ---

[Jade]

In a court filing Tuesday, defense attorney William DuBois wrote Alameda County Superior Court Judge Larry Goodman "that in my carefully considered opinion, defendant Hans Reiser may be mentally incompetent as a result of a mental disorder or developmental disability."

The filing came about a week ahead of a scheduled July 9 sentencing date, in which Judge Goodman was expected to sentence the 44-year-old developer of the ReiserFS file system to a 25-to-life term for killing his wife in 2006. The filing is expected to scuttle that sentencing date.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/07/lawyers-to-judg.html

[joshuapurcell]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/07/BAN011LDR8.DTL

Hans Reiser led authorities to the location of his wife's body in exchange for a lighter sentence in his ongoing murder trial. Looks like the centerpiece of all these dumb conspiracy theories being spouted by Jade have been proven false... Hans Reiser is a murderer. I fully expect Jade to come up with some crazy type of explanation though as to why some secret Jewish order has both told Reiser of this location and convinced him to tell authorities about it.

[deanjo]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/07/BAN011LDR8.DTL

Hans Reiser led authorities to the location of his wife's body in exchange for a lighter sentence in his ongoing murder trial. Looks like the centerpiece of all these dumb conspiracy theories being spouted by Jade have been proven false... Hans Reiser is a murderer. I fully expect Jade to come up with some crazy type of explanation though as to why some secret Jewish order has both told Reiser of this location and convinced him to tell authorities about it.

I do believe that Jade owes a great apology to the kernel devs, the Jewish Community, and everybody else he has blamed.

THE JURY WASN'T RIGGED, IT WAS A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT HAD LEVEL HEADS ON THEM AND DIDN'T FALL FOR BS CONSPIRACY CRUD!!!

[joshuapurcell]

On a different topic, I would like to see the reiser filesystem's name changed to something more fitting... possibly one of these:
ninaFS (I like this best... named after Reiser's victim)
killerFS (although that makes it sound like a good OS, as in a killer FS)

Of course, changing the name could potentially give it more attention than is warranted at this point. Keeping the Reiser name could very well keep this bit of code deservingly far away from kernel inclusion in the future.

EDIT: This is a little funny, sad, true, etc: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_file_systems&oldid=220529437#Features

In case the above link gets edited before anyone clicks on it, the table has a new column labeled "Murders your wife". The reiser filesystems are appropriately labeled.

[lenrek]

Well, there goes the saga. Story ends, let's move on...

On a different topic, I would like to see the reiser filesystem's name changed to something more fitting... possibly one of these:
ninaFS (I like this best... named after Reiser's victim)
killerFS (although that makes it sound like a good OS, as in a killer FS)

Of course, changing the name could potentially give it more attention than is warranted at this point. Keeping the Reiser name could very well keep this bit of code deservingly far away from kernel inclusion in the future.

I don't think there is a need for that. Though I like Reiser3 (I use it in majority of my systems), but I think it would fade away as we move towards ext4. Just like ext2, still there in the kernel, but I have not heard anyone using it in any production machines.

EDIT: After re-read your post, I think I need to increase level my "funny" detector. :D

[RobbieAB]

I do believe that Jade owes a great apology to the kernel devs, the Jewish Community, and everybody else he has blamed.

THE JURY WASN'T RIGGED, IT WAS A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT HAD LEVEL HEADS ON THEM AND DIDN'T FALL FOR BS CONSPIRACY CRUD!!!

Oh, come on, a good conspiracy theorist isn't going to let minor details like reality ruin their theory. Indeed, they will view it as another challenge to be overcome...

[Vighy]

Jade!! Where are you!?!? the conspiracy-alliance is on the way to impose it's own truth!!

:D:D:D

[Jade]

"A worker at the office of Dubois told NBC11 that Reiser was shackled to his lawyer, so he would not run away, as Reiser WAS LED by authorities to the buried body off of the 8200 block of Skyline Boulevard."

Since Reiser has no way to tell the real story, maybe the above statement is more accurate than the actual one run by nbc11, namely;

"A worker at the office of Dubois told NBC11 that Reiser was shackled to his lawyer, so he would not run away, as he led authorities to the buried body off of the 8200 block of Skyline Boulevard."

From http://www.nbc11.com/news/16815295/detail.html

There are still all the very serious problems with the trials.

There are also many problems with the nbc11 story:

1) Reiser had to carry Nina some 500 meters through very rough terrain (perhaps possible, but at the time, he was very overweight and not very fit).

2) He had to carry her at night without being seen by the local residents (ie without light). He had to carry shovels from his house, ie, at least two trips, or find them elsewhere in the dark. He had to dig the hole.

3) The cadaver dog didn't smell any evidence of the body at Hans house or its surrounds. These dogs are amazingly good at doing their job. They can smell a body on a surface that has only come near (but not touched) a body. How many areas in Reiser's house and car got close to (but did not necessarily touch) Nina's body?

Something is seriously wrong here.

Tracker dogs (dogs with different training) are also amazingly good. You can give these dogs an item of clothing and they can track the trail left by even a dead dragged body.

4) It shows that the "evidence" of the missing car seat, the washing of the car, etc, etc,... in fact, all the evidence the verdict was based on, was totally irrelevant and did not point to murder at all.

5) It shows that the jury had to have be rigged. There is no other explaination, the jury reached a verdict based TOTALLY on what is now clearly NOT EVIDENCE AT ALL.

It seems more likely that someone else led the police to her body and police then led Reiser there to make it appear that Reiser was leading them.

The same people who framed Reiser in the first place are still framing him now.

[Jade]

Jade!! Where are you!?!? the conspiracy-alliance is on the way to impose it's own truth!!
I'm here bro,.....

[Jade]

Oh, come on, a good conspiracy theorist isn't going to let minor details like reality ruin their theory. Indeed, they will view it as another challenge to be overcome...
Oh, no,... you have it wrong.

Recent events actually corroborate the hypothesis the trial was rigged,...

[Jade]

Cadaver dogs http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S037907380700134X

[Jade]

In the article http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S037907380700134X

Cadaver dogs were tested in TWO TESTS with bodies dead less than 3 hours.

Carpet squares were used as an odor transporting media.

In test 1) The contamination occurred for 2 min WITHOUT ANY DIRECT CONTACT between the carpet and the corpse.

Comparative searches by the dogs were performed over a time period of 35 days.

In test 2) The contamination occurred for 10 min WITHOUT ANY DIRECT CONTACT between the carpet and the corpse.

Comparative searches by the dogs were performed over a time period of 65 days.

RESULTS = AMAZING.

The results of this study indicate that the well-trained cadaver dog is an outstanding tool for crime scene investigation displaying excellent sensitivity (75-100), specificity (91-100), and having a positive predictive value (90-100), negative predictive value (90-100) as well as accuracy (92-100).

CONCLUSION:

The fable about Reiser that you read in the newspapers is crap.

There is some explanation other than the "official" crap.

The accuracy of the dogs was 92-100% over a 65 day period (and in another test, a 35 day period).

The accuracy of the dogs was 92-100%,.. but that's not all. The accuracy figure includes tests up to 65 days after the body came close to, but did not touch, the carpet square.

The accuracy of the dogs on day one, must have been 100%, if the accuracy only reduced to 92%, after some 50-60 days.

[rbmorse]

This used to be funny. Now, it's merely pathetic.

[lenrek]

When someone consecutively wrote 5 posts in a short time frame, that my friend, is a clear sign of agitation.

[deanjo]

Now, it's merely pathetic.

Extremely pathetic. As if they knew where the body was before Hans told them, he would be on death row right now.

[joshuapurcell]

How easily we fail to take into account the far-reaching power of this secret Jewish society that Jade has so diligently uncovered!

Actually, Hans Reiser himself could appear in court and while being video recorded say how, when and why he killed his wife and Jade would still be making up idiotic conspiracy theories on who must have made him confess.

[some-guy]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/07/BAN011LDR8.DTL

CASE CLOSED

:p

[Vighy]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/07/BAN011LDR8.DTL

CASE CLOSED

:p

Blaaaahh she is ugly!!! the real question is:

HOW COULD HIM MERRY HER!?!?!

[joshuapurcell]

Here is a good article on Reiser's last meeting with a journalist. It's not an interview really since no questions are asked:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/07/09/hans_reiser/

[lenrek]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/07/BAN011LDR8.DTL

CASE CLOSED

:p

Just case someone too lazy to read the link...

... Reiser also acknowledged that he and his wife had fought and that he had strangled her, a source familiar with the investigation said...

And, from joshuapurcell's link:

... http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/07/09/hans_reiser/

... Hans took the police to Nina's body. He had buried her less than a mile from his house, not far from the trailhead. He lived close to the Redwood Regional Park, a place where you could hike for days. Search and rescue had scoured the area with ground troops and cadaver dogs, but the body was hidden in a shallow grave more than 100 feet down a steep ravine. She had been strangled. His lawyers stated that Hans was remorseful; that he was trying to make things right. I knew that wasn't true. He had maintained his innocence since being arrested in October 2006. I was the last journalist to interview him before his confession. He wasn't remorseful, he was angry. He still felt the world owed him something.

Not that I hate Hans, but from what I have read about his character, the last part wasn't much of a big surprise to me.

Yes, the man wrote a file system, many view it as one of the best file system in the world, and made it into Linux.
Yes, because of this contribution, many of us admire him.
Yes, is saddening, it turn out this way.

But, he killed his ex-wife. From what I have learned so far, it is a fact.

[Jade]

.. Reiser also acknowledged that he and his wife had fought and that he had strangled her, a source familiar with the investigation said...

MORE ON THIS (why not give the whole quote):

"Hans Reiser first told prosecutors a story that implicated Sean Sturgeon as the killer. Reiser claimed he had only helped bury the body. When he was asked to take a lie detector test while repeating the story, Reiser failed the test.
.
Hans Reiser then offered another story, in which he said he strangled Nina after the two fought. He was offered a deal for second degree murder, 15-to-life, and waived his appellate rights."

http://www.ktvu.com/news/16815248/detail.html

[Jade]

Meow said: "Now I'm wondering, since Hans is allergic to poison oak, why he didn't have a gigantic case of it in the weeks following burying Nina in that obscure spot on a steep hill."

Sgt. J.D. Nelson, spokesman for the Alameda County Sheriff's Office and Coroner's Bureau said:

"The area (where Nina's body was buried) was searched 'superficially' in the initial search for Nina Reiser because it was off the beaten track and covered with poison oak."

http://www.insidebayarea.com/oaklandtribune/ci_9811812

Since Hans is allergic to poison oak, I guess this proves that Hans did NOT bury (or kill) Nina.

So who did bury Nina?

Obviously, the real killer, not the patsy, Reiser.

My money in on anon81552 (a commenter on sfgate.com blogs) as the real killer.

From: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/localnews/detail?blogid=37&entry_id=27930

[lenrek]

:rolleyes:

Well... At least I tried.

[Huenengrab]

Fox Mulder was great, when he saw conspiracies everywhere. You're just sad, Jade.

[yoshi314]

some people just never give up. i was hopinh till the end that reiser was not guilty. guess i was wrong.

jade, if you insist on trolling, at least kill the colours please.

[joshuapurcell]

Now it's time for a username block on this forum (if Jade isn't going to be kicked from the forum that is). I want to block any of Jade's forum posts/threads but how do I do this? It has been mentioned before, but I don't see the option anywhere.

[deanjo]

Now it's time for a username block on this forum (if Jade isn't going to be kicked from the forum that is). I want to block any of Jade's forum posts/threads but how do I do this? It has been mentioned before, but I don't see the option anywhere.

Go into your user CP, and then click on Edit Ignore List and then enter Jade for ignored user.

I would also recommend when the sentencing is done that this thread be locked and allowed to drop to the depths of old and resolved threads.

[Jade]

About Poison Oak:

Usually, no visible reaction will occur the first time a person comes in contact with poison oak.

When initially exposed, the skin alerts the immune system of the presence of the irritating chemical. The immune system then prepares a defensive reaction for the next time the skin encounters the substance. This sensitizes the skin so that new contact with poison oak causes an allergic reaction.

For some people even the pollen in the air is a problem. They quite literally cannot enter an area were poison oak grows.

Poison oak pollen is abundant in Spring in all areas where Poison Oak is common. Pollen from Poison Oak can land on people's skin and can cause the exact same symptoms as contact with the leaves of the plant. Inhalation of Poison Oak pollen can be DANGEROUS for people with asthma who are also susceptible already to the contact affects of this species.

[lenrek]

:rolleyes:

I am not sure what is the purpose of continuing this. Maybe you believe, by writing it more of such, it will turn to be true. But, this is worst than wishful thinking. I always believe, human being would ultimately choose to accept what the facts tell us, but I guess, there will those who choose to live a life of self-delusion.

Jade, I hope you are just trolling, but if you are really serious in what you said, then I sincerely felt pity for you. Though, I doubt you will be able to truly understand or comprehend why I pity you.

EDIT: I think, this should be the last post I want to reply in this thread. I see no more reason to reply anymore.

[RobbieAB]

Everyone is taking this thread far too seriously...

I read it for a laugh!

[dogpile]

Jade, or his twin brother, is also trolling the San Francisco Chronicle forum as "FruityJuice:"

http://www.sfchroniclemarketplace.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=37&entry_id=26219#comments

[Jade]

Everyone is taking this thread far too seriously...

I read it for a laugh!
I am glad that you enjoy spotting all the holes in the prosecutions case.

You are correct, their case was a laugh, a total joke.

[Jade]

None of you commented on this; Here is another chance.

"A worker at the office of Dubois told NBC11 that Reiser was shackled to his lawyer, so he would not run away, as Reiser WAS LED by authorities to the buried body off of the 8200 block of Skyline Boulevard."

Since Reiser has no way to tell the real story, maybe the above statement is more accurate than the actual one run by nbc11, namely;

"A worker at the office of Dubois told NBC11 that Reiser was shackled to his lawyer, so he would not run away, as he led authorities to the buried body off of the 8200 block of Skyline Boulevard."

From http://www.nbc11.com/news/16815295/detail.html

There are still all the very serious problems with the trials.

There are also many problems with the nbc11 story:

1) Reiser had to carry Nina some 500 meters through very rough terrain (perhaps possible, but at the time, he was very overweight and not very fit).

2) He had to carry her at night without being seen by the local residents (ie without light). He had to carry shovels from his house, ie, at least two trips, or find them elsewhere in the dark. He had to dig the hole.

3) The cadaver dog didn't smell any evidence of the body at Hans' house or its surrounds or in his car. These dogs are amazingly good at their job. They can smell the scent of a body on a surface that has only come near (but not touched) a body. And they can accurately smell these incredibly faint odors, for periods of over two months. How many areas in Reiser's house and car would have been close to (but did not necessarily touch) Nina's body, if Hans had killed her there?

Something is seriously wrong here.

Tracker dogs (dogs with different training) are also amazingly good. You can give these dogs an item of clothing and they can track the trail left by even a dead dragged/carried body.

4) It shows that the "evidence" of the missing car seat, the washing of the car, etc, etc,... in fact, all the evidence the verdict was based on, was totally irrelevant and did not point to murder at all.

5) It shows that the jury had to have been rigged. There is no other explaination, the jury reached a verdict based TOTALLY on what is now clearly NOT EVIDENCE AT ALL.

It seems more likely that someone else led the police to her body and police then led Reiser there to make it appear that Reiser was leading them.

The same people who framed Reiser in the first place are still framing him now.

[some-guy]

Reiser led them.

If you think Reiser didn't carefully think about how he would get rid of the body your fooling yourself. He is a computer genius. He obviously has a high IQ, meaning that he should be able to evade the authorities somewhat. Which is what he did.

[Moronix]

He is very smart with technicalities, obviously, he's an accomplished programmer, but he is very stupid with how others think, he said that himself and that's one thing he didn't lie about. He hid the body well and cleaned up after himself, but his testimony and attempts at hiding circumstance from common sense were a joke.

[Jade]

Some have said (sfgate.com blog), that the Jew mafia may have threatened to harm Reiser's kids, to get him to agree to saying he is guilty, but this does not seem as likely as Reiser himself being part of the overall plot. Like I have said before, the judge Goodman, the DA Hora and the awful DuBois and Reiser himself,... all on the same side.

Just like the show trials in Stalin's Soviet Union.

They are called show trials because they were a performance, an act, where all the parties were just playing a role. Their purpose being to scare the public into behaving, by having even the great friends of the regime put on trial, found guilty and "executed".

The Soviet show trials are famous for the prosecuted inexplicably helping the prosecution,... remind you of anything?

How would you compel someone to say this at his trial:

"I end as a traitor to my party, a traitor who must be shot."

Sergei Mrachkovsky, 22 August, 1936.

Sergei Mrachkovsky was then (supposedly) shot dead by firing squad.

Why did Sergei Mrachkovsky help the prosecution make its case and demand that he himself should be shot?

It is because he was part of a performance, an act, everyone involved with the trial was just playing a role.

The judge, the prosecutor, the defence lawyer and Sergei Mrachkovsky himself, were all on the same side.

Sergei Mrachkovsky was not shot. He was just quietly moved out of the country.

[Vighy]

Some have said (sfgate.com blog), that the Jew mafia may have threatened to harm Reiser's kids, to get him to agree to saying he is guilty, but this does not seem as likely as Reiser himself being part of the overall plot. Like I have said before, the judge Goodman, the DA Hora and the awful DuBois and Reiser himself,... all on the same side.

Just like the show trials in Stalin's Soviet Union.

They are called show trials because they were a performance, an act, where all the parties were just playing a role. Their purpose being to scare the public into behaving, by having even the great friends of the regime put on trial, found guilty and "executed".

The Soviet show trials are famous for the prosecuted inexplicably helping the prosecution,... remind you of anything?

How would you compel someone to say this at his trial:

"I end as a traitor to my party, a traitor who must be shot."

Sergei Mrachkovsky, 22 August, 1936.

Sergei Mrachkovsky was then (supposedly) shot dead by firing squad.

Why did Sergei Mrachkovsky help the prosecution make its case and demand that he himself should be shot?

It is because he was part of a performance, an act, everyone involved with the trial was just playing a role.

The judge, the prosecutor, the defence lawyer and Sergei Mrachkovsky himself, were all on the same side.

Sergei Mrachkovsky was not shot. He was just quietly moved out of the country.

Mhh but this architecture of conspiracy, needs a reason.

You say: "Reiser was imprisoned, because of his Filesystem, that was way too better that other FSs."

but what you didn't explain is why a FS that was going (someday) to enter the linux kernel mainline (so it was an Open Source FS), was so dangerous! and who thought it was daners! and why they thought it was (it's not the same question as before)?

you always skip this point. :p explain this, and then maybe people will not laugh any more.

and finally, what jews match with this story?

[Jade]

The sentencing hearing is on the 13th August.

[Jade]

Delayed (again and again and again) till Aug. 29.

[deanjo]

OAKLAND, California – Linux guru and convicted murdered Hans Reiser was handed a prison sentence of 15-to-life Friday, putting a final capstone on a case that began as a murder mystery, and ended with Reiser leading police to a makeshift grave a short distance from where he strangled his wife.
"I wish to humbly apologize to society for my crime," Reiser said in a statement before his sentence was pronounced. "Every human life is sacred. I took the life of a human being and I'm very sorry for that."
Hans Reiser killed his wife, Nina, at about 4:30 p.m. on Sept. 3, 2006, according to the belated confession Reiser wrote as part of his deal, said prosecutor Paul Hora after the sentencing. He first punched her in the mouth, cutting his hand, then strangled her to death.
He briefly stored the body in the bathroom, then moved it to his car, where it stayed for two days while he searched for a place to bury her.






Time for this thread to be locked, it's done, it's over.

[Jade]

He first punched her in the mouth, cutting his hand,..

Thu 2006-09-28: Reiser attends a child custody hearing in Alameda County Superior Court. The judge rules that the children should remain with Ellen Doren and her husband. When confronted by reporters outside the courthouse, Reiser sprints away. He runs to a nearby county building, where he visits his children and gives his son a telescope for his birthday. Oakland PD follow him and later that night, detain him for a DNA sample. He is checked for cuts, scratches or bruises. None are found.

http://linuxhelp.150m.com/politics/ReiserTrialSummaryAnalysis.htm

We are to believe, that the traces of Nina's blood on the pillar, are "evidence" that Nina has been stabbed, or slashed, to death. Therefore, the traces of Hans' blood on the pillar, must be "evidence" that Hans has also been stabbed, or slashed, to death. However, no cuts, scratches, or even bruises, were found on Hans Reiser.[4,5,6] Clearly, something is wrong here.

[4] (http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/15-07/ff_hansreiser?currentPage=all) At the police station, they photographed his body for signs of scratches or bruises. None were found.
[5] (http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/oakland-califor.html) "Other than those acne or a scratch, you didn't find any other marks that indicate a struggle that day?" defense attorney William DuBois asked Grant, who was under cross examination. "Correct sir." ... He later added that "There were some small marks, but nothing of significance."
[6] (http://linuxhelp.150m.com/politics/first-two-days.htm#NoScratchesBruises) Hans was taken to the PD, had his picture taken ... and examined. No scratches or bruises were found on his body.

http://linuxhelp.150m.com/politics/first-two-days.htm

This case is/was a TOTAL joke.

I don't know exactly what weirdness has gone down here,... but I know the case was a TOTAL joke.

[Jade]

Since when have "confessions" been written in a question and answer format?

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/files/confession.pdf

Answer: Since the "justice" system wanted to obfuscate the facts.

It seems parts of the "justice" system are evil.

[Jade]

He first punched her in the mouth, cutting his hand,..

Thu 2006-09-28: Reiser attends a child custody hearing in Alameda County Superior Court. The judge rules that the children should remain with Ellen Doren and her husband. When confronted by reporters outside the courthouse, Reiser sprints away. He runs to a nearby county building, where he visits his children and gives his son a telescope for his birthday. Oakland PD follow him and later that night, detain him for a DNA sample. He is checked for cuts, scratches or bruises. None are found.

http://linuxhelp.150m.com/politics/ReiserTrialSummaryAnalysis.htm

We are to believe, that the traces of Nina's blood on the pillar, are "evidence" that Nina has been stabbed, or slashed, to death. Therefore, the traces of Hans' blood on the pillar, must be "evidence" that Hans has also been stabbed, or slashed, to death. However, no cuts, scratches, or even bruises, were found on Hans Reiser.[4,5,6] Clearly, something is wrong here.

[4] (http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/15-07/ff_hansreiser?currentPage=all) At the police station, they photographed his body for signs of scratches or bruises. None were found.
[5] (http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/oakland-califor.html) "Other than those acne or a scratch, you didn't find any other marks that indicate a struggle that day?" defense attorney William DuBois asked Grant, who was under cross examination. "Correct sir." ... He later added that "There were some small marks, but nothing of significance."
[6] (http://linuxhelp.150m.com/politics/first-two-days.htm#NoScratchesBruises) Hans was taken to the PD, had his picture taken ... and examined. No scratches or bruises were found on his body.

http://linuxhelp.150m.com/politics/first-two-days.htm

This case is/was a TOTAL joke.

I don't know exactly what weirdness has gone down here,... but I know the case was a TOTAL joke.

So has anyone figured whether it was the Police or Reiser, who lied about the cut on his hand?

[Jade]

So has anyone figured whether it was the Police or Reiser, who lied about the cut on his hand?
So, no one cares about this (and many other) glaring contradictions?

[psycho_driver]

So, no one cares about this (and many other) glaring contradictions?

Nope. He killed her and will be in the clink for a long, long time. Move along.

[misiu_mp]

For the record: Raiser showed the place he buried his wife in exchange for lowered sentence.

The guy married the wrong person who might have planned to abuse his social naiveness or just tried to secure her own future, he couldn't deal with it the proper way and ended up using the worst of possible methods.
Classical saga, I wouldn't be surprised if there will be a movie about it.

[Nille_kungen]

Well it ain't over yet.
I saw today that Reiser seeks to appeal.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/19/BANK1478HP.DTL

[lenrek]

Well it ain't over yet.
I saw today that Reiser seeks to appeal.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/19/BANK1478HP.DTL

Nah... The article from the link stated clearly, it is pretty much the end of the road for him.

[Jade]

Nah... The article from the link stated clearly, it is pretty much the end of the road for him.
It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

[Aradreth]

It ain't over till the fat lady sings.
You happy now? (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gb7nwoQVkQE)

[Sleuth]

This was a fun thread.

[Ant P.]

This was a fun thread.

But it was more fun before one account suddenly showed up to necro-bump all of Jade's threads at once.

Hmm.

[Historian]

The whole Reiser trial stunk. Still does.

I still wonder exactly what went down. I am sure we never got the truth.

[conholster]

The whole Reiser trial stunk. Still does.

I still wonder exactly what went down. I am sure we never got the truth.

HR led the police to the womans body himself and admitted he killed her. <-Pretty much the truth part.