Wayland 1.20 Planned For Release In December

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Wayland 1.20 Planned For Release In December

It's been nine months since the release of Wayland 1.19 while now release plans have been drafted for Wayland 1.20...

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Wayland-1.20-Release-Plans

[jacob]

So FreeBSD supports Wayland now?

[birdie]

Why does it feel like it's already dead Jim? Or everyone is content with the status quo? X.org, though it was a fork of XFree86, saw a ton of development in its early years.

[Danny3]

And I was hoping for some kind of screen capturing API.

[uid313]

Can it recover from GPU hangs?
Can it update GPU device driver without restart?
Can it support secure attention key login using Ctrl+Alt+Del?

[birdie]

Can it recover from GPU hangs?
Can it update GPU device driver without restart?
Can it support secure attention key login using Ctrl+Alt+Del?

"That's outside the protocol, please consult with your DE compositor" - Wayland developers.

[schmidtbag]

Why does it feel like it's already dead Jim? Or everyone is content with the status quo? X.org, though it was a fork of XFree86, saw a ton of development in its early years.

In what universe does Wayland seem dead? What else do you think is necessary for a display server and protocol to have? Because I'm guessing a lot of those features are things that either:
A. Are what made X11 into a bloated, broken, and insecure mess
B. Go beyond the definition of a protocol and display server, and therefore should not be implemented
Also, Wayland was released in 2008; it's hardly in it's "early years" anymore.

[jacob]

And I was hoping for some kind of screen capturing API.

That already exists at the compositor level

[user1]

So let me get this straight.. On one hand, Wayland compositors have to reinvent the wheel because of the protocol's minimalism. On the other hand, that's what Wayland developers want, because they don't want to turn into a "bloated mess" like x11. Can't there be some middle ground in this situation?

[birdie]

schmidtbag

Out of two dozen people on Phoronix who continue to scream that X.org is insecure, not a single has been able to demonstrate any in-the-wild malware using the said "insecurity" of even past real incidents/breaches/successful hacking attempts related to it.

As for "bloated", are you a programmer or you're parroting what you've once heard? How much experience in C programming do you have to say something like that? Do you have experience in writing display drivers or other other low-level enough code? Wayland might have been released in 2008, it doesn't make any more well-thought-out or suitable for the desktop.