Mir 2.11 Released With A Fix Around XWayland Use

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Mir 2.11 Released With A Fix Around XWayland Use

A new version of Mir has been released, which in recent years has been serving as a Wayland compositor and used for various niche use-cases like smart exercise mirrors and other IoT and kiosk-type deployments...

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mir-2.11-Released

[Steffo]

Why is no desktop using Mir? It seems to be a clean code base.

[CochainComplex]

Why is no desktop using Mir? It seems to be a clean code base.

because after Wayland was announced and got on track Canonical decided to "do their own thing" the canonical self-focused way. e.g. Snaps. Their are multiple reasons why it should not be adopted by other distros. Basically its boiled down to canonical wants full control of the software, development process and the licensing .

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(s...e)#Controversy

[Steffo]

because after Wayland was announced and got on track Canonical decided to "do their own thing" the canonical self-focused way. e.g. Snaps. Their are multiple reasons why it should not be adopted by other distros.

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(s...e)#Controversy

You are clearly mixing things up. Snap has nothing to do with Wayland/Mir. And the today's Mir shares nothing with the old Mir. The old Mir was a Wayland-alternative. Todays Mir is in fact a Wayland display server implementation.
And what distribution is not "going its own way"? systemd was a Red Hat project, before it has been adopted by other distributions. In fact, upstart from Canonical was widely adopted before. And then almost every distribution has its own package manager etc.

[skeevy420]

You are clearly mixing things up. Snap has nothing to do with Wayland/Mir. And the today's Mir shares nothing with the old Mir. The old Mir was a Wayland-alternative. Todays Mir is in fact a Wayland display server implementation.
And what distribution is not "going its own way"? systemd was a Red Hat project, before it has been adopted by other distributions. In fact, upstart from Canonical was widely adopted before. And then almost every distribution has its own package manager etc.

You mixed up what he said. He was saying how Ubuntu likes to have excessive control over everything and was comparing the license of Mir to how Ubuntu handles Snaps; a comparison about how Ubuntu blurs the line between free and non-free so it is best to steer clear of Ubuntu projects.

[Tuxee]

You mixed up what he said. He was saying how Ubuntu likes to have excessive control over everything and was comparing the license of Mir to how Ubuntu handles Snaps; a comparison about how Ubuntu blurs the line between free and non-free so it is best to steer clear of Ubuntu projects.

Car to elaborate?

https://github.com/MirServer/mir

states both client and server are under (L)GPL-2/3.

[Tuxee]

because after Wayland was announced and got on track Canonical decided to "do their own thing" the canonical self-focused way. e.g. Snaps. Their are multiple reasons why it should not be adopted by other distros. Basically its boiled down to canonical wants full control of the software, development process and the licensing .

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(s...e)#Controversy

Since you are so firm about it: Can you point me to the "controlled licensing" of Mir?

[RahulSundaram]

Car to elaborate?

https://github.com/MirServer/mir

states both client and server are under (L)GPL-2/3.

The licensing controversies are because Canonical projects use a corporate CLA that requires any third party contributions to give them a broad license which allows only Canonical, the asymmetrical exclusive ability to re-license the entire library for proprietary projects. It is noted in the wikipedia article linked. This is also partly why Lennart started systemd instead of contributing to Upstart.

[Danny3]

Again with this crap?
Why can't they just contribute to upstream Wayland or other compositors, Mutter, Kwin, Gamescope?
WTF is always with Canonical and its NIH syndrome, can't they give up on their bullshit?

[cynic]

And what distribution is not "going its own way"? systemd was a Red Hat project, before it has been adopted by other distributions. In fact, upstart from Canonical was widely adopted before. And then almost every distribution has its own package manager etc.

upstart was so much a joke that even canonical abandoned it, as they abandoned every close alternative they tried to push into the market.