KDE Plasma 6 X11 Session "Barely Buggier" Than Plasma 5 On X11

[phoronix]

Phoronix: KDE Plasma 6 X11 Session "Barely Buggier" Than Plasma 5 On X11

Prominent KDE developer Nate Graham is out with his latest weekly development summary to highlight all of the work on Plasma 5 fixes and then the ongoing feature work in the march toward Plasma 6.0...

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Plasma-6-X11-Barely-Buggier

[avis]

From https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Plasma_6

" Bring SDDM into KDE. See https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma...op/-/issues/91 " - whoa, took them a decade to remember that KDE doesn't have its own DM.

[user1]

From https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Plasma_6

" Bring SDDM into KDE. See https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma...op/-/issues/91 " - whoa, took them a decade to remember that KDE doesn't have its own DM.

I still have no idea why they got rid of KDM with the release of Plasma 5 in 2014. I was using one of the last KDE 4 versions on Kubuntu 14.04 around 2014-15 and remember how KDM was working flawlessly. It had a smoother transition from login screen to desktop than SDDM ever had, even compared to current versions.

[ahmedflix25]

wait what?!

[Sethox]

I still have no idea why they got rid of KDM with the release of Plasma 5 in 2014. I was using one of the last KDE 4 versions on Kubuntu 14.04 around 2014-15 and remember how KDM was working flawlessly. It had a smoother transition from login screen to desktop than SDDM ever had, even compared to current versions.

Grand speculation here, but it could be the same situation about the X11 vs Wayland discussion where some end-users want X11 because it works for them but in reality the developers find X11 a tiring and annoying to code or develop in.

[Alexmitter]

I thought it was physically impossible to create anything buggier then Plasma, yet they somehow managed to make it even buggier. KDE just manages to impress again.

[user1]

Grand speculation here, but it could be the same situation about the X11 vs Wayland discussion where some end-users want X11 because it works for them but in reality the developers find X11 a tiring and annoying to code or develop in.

Maybe it was potentially easier to add Wayland support for SDDM, but considering the fact that it got Wayland support fairly recently, I really don't think that was the reason for dropping KDM.

[user1]

I thought it was physically impossible to create anything buggier then Plasma, yet they somehow managed to make it even buggier. KDE just manages to impress again.

I'm starting to think they are very limited by the Qt toolkit. I remember a few years ago watching a conference where some KDE dev was talking about how a major Qt version upgrade has regressed their Wayland progress by a whopping few months. I guess this might be the reason for the current Wayland regressions in Plasma 6.

[aufkrawall]

Would really like to have a slim DM that by default doesn't start the xserver and lets the DE session run xwayland as rootless. Until then, it's bare tty...

[FireBurn]

SDDM from Git allows that - was using it last time I tested Plasma 5 Wayland. Still had to switch back due to bugs and inconsistencies


I feel less bad about it now considering the Devs do the same