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    Phoronix: Open-Source NVIDIA Vulkan Driver Begins Working On Pipeline Caching

    In addition to Mesa 23.3-devel today seeing Intel Vulkan sparse support finally land, another notable merge request that landed is beginning to plumb in pipeline caching support for the open-source NVIDIA "NVK" Vulkan driver...

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  • #2
    What a waste of time and resources :-(
    NVIDIA doesn't want to play open with Linux. All efforts are done painfully through reverse eng...
    Let us focus on AMD ! They give docs, write drivers and help debug a lot, so why persevere ?
    Linus say it : FUCK NVIDIA !

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Gro_ View Post
      What a waste of time and resources :-(
      NVIDIA doesn't want to play open with Linux. All efforts are done painfully through reverse eng...
      Let us focus on AMD ! They give docs, write drivers and help debug a lot, so why persevere ?
      Linus say it : FUCK NVIDIA !
      Why persevere? So if your dream came true and nvidia went bankrupt tomorrow and microsoft deleted windows 11 (hahaha) - we'll just throw all these controllers in the bin, just because you don't like their creators source code philosophy? decent hardware and competition is never a bad thing and nvidia and AMD provide both (welcome Intel). nvidia's open source stance is the worst of those three but this is an effort to *circumvent that control* - given that nvidia has given a lot to allow this now they are trying to keep it in the direction they want..but anyway is open source now. so why hate on this project?

      Team red underdog love, but hooray for any movement on the nvidia open source stack!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by panikal View Post

        Why persevere? So if your dream came true and nvidia went nothing to do with your windows 11 thing​ tomorrow and microsoft deleted windows 11 (hahaha) - we'll just throw all these controllers in the bin, just because you don't like their creators source code philosophy? decent hardware and competition is never a bad thing and nvidia and AMD provide both (welcome Intel). nvidia's open source stance is the worst of those three but this is an effort to *circumvent that control* - given that nvidia has given a lot to allow this now they are trying to keep it in the direction they want..but anyway is open source now. so why hate on this project?

        Team red underdog love, but hooray for any movement on the nvidia open source stack!!
        ??? stop coke man, just said that they doesn't want to be open and help Linux & open source. Nothing to do with your windows 11 & MS thing​s, I just want to run a good system with good drivers, open and scalable hardware -> AMD. So, objectively, NVIDIA have never helped open source community to have good Linux drivers.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gro_ View Post
          What a waste of time and resources :-(
          NVIDIA doesn't want to play open with Linux. All efforts are done painfully through reverse eng...
          Let us focus on AMD ! They give docs, write drivers and help debug a lot, so why persevere ?
          Linus say it : FUCK NVIDIA !
          Just remember: No company is your friend. AMD is playing nice because they have incentives, it's never bad to foster alternatives...

          Hahabuttotallyfucknvidiawitharakeletsgiveintellove too
          Last edited by Kver; 28 September 2023, 04:42 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Gro_ View Post
            NVIDIA have never helped open source community to have good Linux drivers.​
            There is a funny part to all this. Nvidia vulkan drivers the open source mesa ones started with Nvidia paid developers working on Nvidia tegra. So Nvidia never helped open source is not true.

            Nvidia has a market segmentation thing they love anything that possible causes problems with that gets Nvidia resistance..

            Getting cross the board cooperating out of Nvidia has been process of pulling teeth. Some areas Nvidia does want to play well with open source other areas they are a pain in the but.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kver View Post

              Just remember: No company is your friend. AMD is playing nice because they have incentives, it's never bad to foster alternatives...

              Hahabuttotallyfucknvidiawitharakeletsgiveintellove too
              Yes, for sure ! But NVIDIA isn't an alternative. INTEL is one, on the other hand, they give help, docs and drivers too.
              I really struggle to see NVIDIA as an alternative, even if their hardware is better, I will always choose AMD or INTEL​

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gro_ View Post
                What a waste of time and resources :-(
                NVIDIA doesn't want to play open with Linux. All efforts are done painfully through reverse eng...
                Let us focus on AMD ! They give docs, write drivers and help debug a lot, so why persevere ?
                Linus say it : FUCK NVIDIA !
                NVIDIA still has the better hardware and the majority of the users with ~80% market share. Those 80% of the users with discrete GPUs will have a bad open source experiance and will have to go back to using closed source drivers. It's like NVIDIA keeps that part of the Linux user base hostage.

                AMD also has closed source firmware inside the drivers, and requires signed firmware too

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

                  There is a funny part to all this. Nvidia vulkan drivers the open source mesa ones started with Nvidia paid developers working on Nvidia tegra. So Nvidia never helped open source is not true.

                  Nvidia has a market segmentation thing they love anything that possible causes problems with that gets Nvidia resistance..

                  Getting cross the board cooperating out of Nvidia has been process of pulling teeth. Some areas Nvidia does want to play well with open source other areas they are a pain in the but.
                  IMHO, that's true of practically every company that isn't FOSS to begin with, like System76, that supports Linux. They're all nice and well except for that thing or two...or seven thousand and twenty three in the case of NVIDIA.

                  Ironically, when it comes to NVIDIA, the same, yet opposite, is true with AMD. ROCm might as well be pulling teeth where CUDA is relatively painless, AMD GUIs are nonexistent where at least NVIDIA offers...something, AMD's professional driver has limited distribution support while NVIDIA's driver works anywhere that meets its requirements, but if you just want to use a desktop, watch movies, and play games, AMD has the easiest to use and best experience without a doubt.

                  If y'all want an LOL, I wrote "pooling teeth" before proofreading

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by toughy View Post

                    NVIDIA still has the better hardware and the majority of the users with ~80% market share. Those 80% of the users with discrete GPUs will have a bad open source experiance and will have to go back to using closed source drivers. It's like NVIDIA keeps that part of the Linux user base hostage.

                    AMD also has closed source firmware inside the drivers, and requires signed firmware too
                    Plus, it's not like a lot of user oriented distributions don't make it really easy to get NVIDIA drivers working, either at install time or on the first few boots. Just because I'm an AMD user doesn't mean I don't see these options available

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