AMD CPU Use By Linux Gamers At ~70%, AMD openSIL, & AMD Laptops Topped 2023

[phoronix]

Phoronix: AMD CPU Use By Linux Gamers At ~70%, AMD openSIL, & AMD Laptops Topped 2023

As part of the various end-of-year Phoronix articles, here's a look back at the most popular AMD Linux/open-source news stories and reviews of 2023...

https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-Linux-News-2023

[Kjell]

AMD supremacy was inevitable given how greedy Intel is and how Intel's products are inferior. Just look at the "E cores" nonsense.

[vextium]

Most hyped about AMD openSIL, hopefully openSIL will support Ryzen, and then we can finally get Coreboot? (Hopefully)

[user1]

AMD supremacy was inevitable given how greedy Intel is and how Intel's products are inferior. Just look at the "E cores" nonsense.

But AMD's platforms are notoriously more buggy than Intel's. For example, until recently some of them suffered from random USB dropout issues and other bugs.

[drakonas777]

But AMD's platforms are notoriously more buggy than Intel's. For example, until recently some of them suffered from random USB dropout issues and other bugs.

Perhaps. However, even such simple thing as Arch HW support docs unveil plenty of bugs in Intel platforms aswell. It's hard to compare without some decent data. I do agree though that consumers and reviewers reports tend to make an impressions AMD is more buggy more often than not.

[skeevy420]

AMD supremacy was inevitable given how greedy Intel is and how Intel's products are inferior. Just look at the "E cores" nonsense.

AMD is doing their version of E cores, too, with Zen 4C. Technically speaking, using Intel lingo, AMD has E cores, P cores, and, hmm, I'll go with C cores...Cache cores; X3D...that they can utilize as necessary. Desktops get P, C, and P+C setups while laptops/portables get P and P+E setups. The difference between AMD and Intel E cores is that the Intel ones are a different ISA than their P core counterparts while the AMD E cores are low cache, low spec cores utilizing the same ISA; the C in Zen4C means Crappy.

Anyhoo, either option from either company can be great or crappy depending on the task at hand and, more importantly, the task scheduler being advanced enough to know when to use which core for what reasons. Take gaming: when not gaming a person doesn't necessarily need power hungry X3D cores or cores that can boost up to 67Ghz. A person just doesn't need that kind of umph for YouTube and Xvideos....I mean emails. YouTube and writing emails.

Both AMD and Intel's hybrid approaches sucked out of the gate and are why task schedulers the OS world over now have was to prefer E core, P core, and X3D.

[Karmux]

I wanted to have AMD GPU for sure and then it just felt right to go full AMD.

[RejectModernity]

Intel is selling snakeoil

[coder]

AMD supremacy was inevitable given how greedy Intel is and how Intel's products are inferior. Just look at the "E cores" nonsense.

Hybrid CPUs make a lot of sense, in terms of both perf/$ and perf/W. P-cores don't scale very efficiently beyond 8 or so threads. At that point E-cores become the better option. Having some P-cores is great for those lightly-threaded tasks, but when you've got a heavily multi-threaded workload, E-cores are technically superior.

Instead of looking at E-cores like they're taking something away from you, it's better to think of them as "something extra". The only real downside is they need to be scheduled effectively. As I've pointed out before, a lot of those same thread-scheduling challenges were with us ever since SMT came onto the scene. Most of the games which benefit from disabling E-cores also benefit from disabling hyperthreading.

Hybrid CPU tech is what enabled Intel to stay competitive with AMD, even when Zen 4 is on a better manufacturing node than Raptor Lake.

https://www.computerbase.de/2022-10/intel-core-i9-13900k-i7-13700-i5-13600k-test/4/

[coder]

But AMD's platforms are notoriously more buggy than Intel's.

AMD has been ramping up its Linux support, over recent years. Most of this has seemed focused on EPYC/server users & partners, but I think/hope desktop is finally getting some more love.