OpenCL 3.0.16 Released With One New Extension, Semaphores & External Memory Finalized

[phoronix]

Phoronix: OpenCL 3.0.16 Released With One New Extension, Semaphores & External Memory Finalized

OpenCL 3.0 debuted back in 2020 and while we haven't heard talks of any major revision on the horizon, it does continue to see new point releases. Released on Thursday was OpenCL 3.0.16 that adds one new extension while finalizing eight formerly provisional extensions...

https://www.phoronix.com/news/OpenCL-3.0.16-Released

[elbar]

Today's reality are custom user space kernel modules(sometimes called programs) and if some language(or compiled to) could benefit some new CPU capabilities the OpenCL way due some lang, it could maybe gain some SuperPower and beat in some specific workload CPU program somehow when CPU is idle , but only if somehow .NET or superior langs is Moore

[Gwen]

Today's reality are custom user space kernel modules(sometimes called programs) and if some language(or compiled to) could benefit some new CPU capabilities the OpenCL way due some lang, it could maybe gain some SuperPower and beat in some specific workload CPU program somehow when CPU is idle , but only if somehow .NET or superior langs is Moore

What is this nonsense supposed to mean?

[Adarion]

Is any program really making use of OpenCL? I thought OpenCL was meant to be a universal interface, hardware independent, for any sort of GPU/CPU calculations. However, 99% of tools seem to be bound to Ngreedias CUDA and the likes. It would be so nice if we had something that would "simply work"(TM).

[NeoMorpheus]

What is this nonsense supposed to mean?

I think thats an AI test bot. :-)

[NeoMorpheus]

Is any program really making use of OpenCL? I thought OpenCL was meant to be a universal interface, hardware independent, for any sort of GPU/CPU calculations. However, 99% of tools seem to be bound to Ngreedias CUDA and the likes. It would be so nice if we had something that would "simply work"(TM).

They did their part to sabotage it. But you can also fault shintel, AMD and the kronos group.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id...pport%20Nvidia.

[Mangix]

Is any program really making use of OpenCL? I thought OpenCL was meant to be a universal interface, hardware independent, for any sort of GPU/CPU calculations. However, 99% of tools seem to be bound to Ngreedias CUDA and the likes. It would be so nice if we had something that would "simply work"(TM).

hashcat, libreoffice, some others.

[rabcor]

Is any program really making use of OpenCL? I thought OpenCL was meant to be a universal interface, hardware independent, for any sort of GPU/CPU calculations. However, 99% of tools seem to be bound to Ngreedias CUDA and the likes. It would be so nice if we had something that would "simply work"(TM).

OpenCL is used yes, it's just a little unwieldy, but i'm sure there's quite a lot of programs that do use it, blender used to use it but bailed on it

OpenCL rendering support was removed. The combination of the limited Cycles kernel implementation, driver bugs, and stalled OpenCL standard has made maintenance too difficult. We are working with hardware vendors to bring back GPU rendering support on AMD and Intel GPUs, using others APIs.

then implemented it again

ffmpeg uses it....

Here's a list even https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...L_applications

[sobrus]

Is any program really making use of OpenCL? I thought OpenCL was meant to be a universal interface, hardware independent, for any sort of GPU/CPU calculations. However, 99% of tools seem to be bound to Ngreedias CUDA and the likes. It would be so nice if we had something that would "simply work"(TM).

Darktable and Davinci Resolve.

But yes, it should be far more popular that it is now. Somehow rocm seems to be more popular choice, even though usually it doesn't work. And cuda of course. Now they will add third Intel option for every app, because it's easier and better to have multiple APIs, for example named "OneAPI", "OpenAPI", "SingleAPI" and "UniAPI", every of them working - as the names suggest - for only one GPU type.

Jokes aside, I know that OpenCL is not perfect, and probably like 10% slower than dedicated API, but still I don't quite get why it's so unpopular especially in open source world, that cares about freedom etc.

[qarium]

Is any program really making use of OpenCL? I thought OpenCL was meant to be a universal interface, hardware independent, for any sort of GPU/CPU calculations. However, 99% of tools seem to be bound to Ngreedias CUDA and the likes. It would be so nice if we had something that would "simply work"(TM).

i really had exactly the same thoughts .. it looks like that even Vulkan Compute has higher marketshare then OpenCL..