AMD Ryzen 9 7950X & Intel Core i9 14900K: Ubuntu 22.04 vs. 23.10 vs. 24.04 Linux Performance

[phoronix]

Phoronix: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X & Intel Core i9 14900K: Ubuntu 22.04 vs. 23.10 vs. 24.04 Linux Performance

As part of my ongoing benchmarking of the newly-released Ubuntu 24.04 LTS Linux distribution, today's focus is looking at the high-end Intel Core i9 14900K and AMD Ryzen 9 7950X desktops while comparing the performance across Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS, Ubuntu 23.10, and Ubuntu 24.04 LTS for dozens of workloads.

https://www.phoronix.com/review/ubuntu-2404-benchmarks

[andyprough]

Actually that difference between 22.04 and 24.04 is a lot less than I expected. I assume it will become more pronounced over time as 24.04 matures further.

[pieman]

PRIME Z790-P BIOS 1656
Version 1656
Beta Version
11.02 MB
2024/04/19

1. The update introduces the Intel Baseline Profile option, allowing users to revert to Intel factory default settings for basic functionality, lower power limits, and improving stability in certain games.

you should update your asus prime motherboard to the latest beta bios to try out the baseline profile. be interesting to see how the 14900k performs at intel stock, factory settings rather than with asus unlimited power consumption, overclock. amd at least forces motherboard vendors to default to amd, stock, factory settings out of the box. kinda unfair to have intel vs amd comparison where every intel motherboard in existence runs their processors, out of the box, with an overclock because intel can't enforce their factory settings until now, when their processors start committing sudoku.
and i say this as someone with a 13900k myself. but i always set my 13900k to intel stock, factory settings, manually.

[novideo]

Then in Furmark 2.1 OpenGL is faster than Vulkan?

[kozman]

I'm a tad bit surprised that there isn't more of a perf delta between 23.10 and 24.04 given all the goodies that went into 6.8 kernel. Am I the only one?

[dc740]

... amd at least forces motherboard vendors to default to amd, stock, factory settings out of the box....

not quite. I own a ryzen 7950X3D and an Asus PRIME X670-P WIFI with 6000mhz ddr5 memory.

The default applied profile (even when you manually load the defaults) has asus overclock enabled. its called ai tweaks, or something like that

it essentially bumps all voltages to run at higher clock speeds. The processor was literally 70°C idle with that enabled.

I disabled it and loaded the memory defaults too because that was also "optimized" by asus. Right now it's at 30°C. here is the report for proof:

❯ sensors
amdgpu-pci-1200
Adapter: PCI adapter
vddgfx:      825.00 mV
vddnb:         1.24 V
edge:         +35.0°C
PPT:          38.20 W

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
Tctl:         +39.5°C
Tccd1:        +32.1°C
Tccd2:        +29.5°C

nvme-pci-0400
Adapter: PCI adapter
Composite:    +29.9°C  (low  =  -0.1°C, high = +82.8°C)
                       (crit = +84.8°C)
Sensor 1:     +29.9°C  (low  = -273.1°C, high = +65261.8°C)

amdgpu-pci-0300
Adapter: PCI adapter
vddgfx:      200.00 mV
fan1:           0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM, max = 3200 RPM)
edge:         +30.0°C  (crit = +110.0°C, hyst = -273.1°C)
                       (emerg = +115.0°C)
junction:     +31.0°C  (crit = +110.0°C, hyst = -273.1°C)
                       (emerg = +115.0°C)
mem:          +45.0°C  (crit = +105.0°C, hyst = -273.1°C)
                       (emerg = +110.0°C)
PPT:           3.00 W  (cap = 130.00 W)

nct6799-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
in0:                          712.00 mV (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +1.74 V)
in1:                          992.00 mV (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in2:                            3.39 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in3:                            3.36 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in4:                            1.02 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in5:                            1.04 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)
in6:                          904.00 mV (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in7:                            3.39 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in8:                            3.28 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in9:                            3.36 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in10:                           1.44 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in11:                           1.12 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in12:                           1.04 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in13:                         400.00 mV (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in14:                         272.00 mV (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in15:                           1.04 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in16:                           1.84 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)  ALARM
in17:                           1.28 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)
fan1:                            0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan2:                          690 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan3:                            0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan4:                            0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan5:                          649 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan7:                            0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
SYSTIN:                        +24.0°C  (high = +95.0°C, hyst = +48.0°C)  sensor = thermistor
CPUTIN:                        +29.5°C  (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C)
                                        (crit = +125.0°C)  sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN0:                       +31.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C)
                                        (crit = +125.0°C)  sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN1:                        +3.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C)
                                        (crit = +125.0°C)  sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN2:                       +19.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C)
                                        (crit = +100.0°C)  sensor = thermistor
AUXTIN3:                       +87.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C)  ALARM
                                        (crit = +100.0°C)  sensor = thermistor
SMBUSMASTER 0:                 +39.0°C  (high = +95.0°C, hyst = +48.0°C)
AUXTIN4:                       +24.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C)
                                        (crit = +100.0°C)
PECI/TSI Agent 0 Calibration:  +29.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C)
AUXTIN5:                       +11.0°C
PCH_CHIP_CPU_MAX_TEMP:          +0.0°C
PCH_CHIP_TEMP:                  +0.0°C
TSI0_TEMP:                     +39.5°C
intrusion0:                   ALARM
intrusion1:                   ALARM
beep_enable:                  disabled​

The cooling is nothing special. The cpu sits on a "Thermalright ASF-RED AM5 CPU Holder/Frame" (which is known to cause higher temps on idle and lower under load) and the cooler is a cheap "Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE", although I did use liquid metal cause I had some at home. why would I need OC with this processor? I really have no reason to side with asus this time. and the temperature was way too high for a default. Just to clarify: AMD did officially mention (and I quote) Designed for a lifetime at 95
. So it's still not a problem... but really, why run this processor at such temperatures when I can run them at 30°C and not notice any difference? I just compile code and play videogames (Feral's gamemode really shines with the X3D processors)


Source: Ryzen 7000 Series Processors: Let's Talk About Power, Temperature, and Performance

https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/ryzen-7000-series-processors-let-s-talk-about-power-temperature/ba-p/554629

[timor]

I'm a tad bit surprised that there isn't more of a perf delta between 23.10 and 24.04 given all the goodies that went into 6.8 kernel. Am I the only one?

I'd like to see the results of comparison of different optimization levels, V2, v3 and V4.

https://ubuntu.com/blog/optimising-ubuntu-performance-on-amd64-architecture

[qarium]

you should update your asus prime motherboard to the latest beta bios to try out the baseline profile. be interesting to see how the 14900k performs at intel stock, factory settings rather than with asus unlimited power consumption, overclock. amd at least forces motherboard vendors to default to amd, stock, factory settings out of the box. kinda unfair to have intel vs amd comparison where every intel motherboard in existence runs their processors, out of the box, with an overclock because intel can't enforce their factory settings until now, when their processors start committing sudoku.
and i say this as someone with a 13900k myself. but i always set my 13900k to intel stock, factory settings, manually.

i did read an article that intel lose up to 19% performance with the baseline profile ...

amd is according to the benchmarks already faster and consume less power so any performance penalty because of the baseline profile would be deathly for intel.

[bezirg]

Intel seems to be lagging 1-2 generations behind AMD both in performance and power consumption. And soon with the release of Zen5, it will be 3 generations behind.

I think it is the right time for other cpu manufacturers to enter this market scene and end the decades-old amd/intel duopoly in the desktop sector. I would personally like to see some ARM or RISC-V architecture compete in the desktop sector.

[NeoMorpheus]

Intel seems to be lagging 1-2 generations behind AMD both in performance and power consumption. And soon with the release of Zen5, it will be 3 generations behind.

I think it is the right time for other cpu manufacturers to enter this market scene and end the decades-old amd/intel duopoly in the desktop sector. I would personally like to see some ARM or RISC-V architecture compete in the desktop sector.

Agreed.

But will expand, the future i want :

intel? Dead.

AMD ducking it out against ARM, RiscV and POWER.