NVIDIA Is Still Working On The New Linux OpenGL ABI

[phoronix]

Phoronix: NVIDIA Is Still Working On The New Linux OpenGL ABI

It's been a while since hearing anything new about the proposed overhaul of the Linux OpenGL driver ABI, but it's continuing to be pursued by NVIDIA...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTc5OTg

[maslascher]

Okay, but about drivers for Wayland? There was something about they are working on it but since then silence.

[Creak]

@Michael:

sadly due to ad blockers, I'm not going to be over there this year in person due to the tightened travel budget

I find it extremely inappropriate to wine about ad blockers right in the middle of an article.
We all know that your site depends mostly on ads, you've repeated it enough times and adblocker's placeholders always reminds us that anyway.

If you want to know, I don't use adblocker anymore, but I still don't like your reaction toward adblockers. Especially when you bloat your site with *seven* ads per article (plus, sometime, a popup) and *five* ads per forum page.
If you still miss some money after that, maybe there is a problem somewhere else. You're not the only tech site on which the author gets paid thanks to ads, and the other tech sites have ad blocker problems too, but they try to address the problem differently.

[justmy2cents]

Okay, but about drivers for Wayland? There was something about they are working on it but since then silence.

if i understood it correctly, this is big part in this proposal as only thing that wayland would have to do is implement vendor neutral ABI stable part since vendor opengl is separated from server.

[birdie]

If you want to know, I don't use adblocker anymore, but I still don't like your reaction toward adblockers. Especially when you bloat your site with *seven* ads per article (plus, sometime, a popup) and *five* ads per forum page.

This is why I refuse to disable AdBlock on Phoronix.

Make ads less intrusive and hostile and people will be more amicable towards your needs. Besides I absolutely hate and cannot stand flashing ads which show a quick sequence of images.

Look at anandtech.com and arstechnica.com on how to run ads.

[mark45]

This is why I refuse to disable AdBlock on Phoronix.

Make ads less intrusive and hostile and people will be more amicable towards your needs. Besides I absolutely hate and cannot stand flashing ads which show a quick sequence of images.

Look at anandtech.com and arstechnica.com on how to run ads.

Yeah, if the ads were ONLY still images (and/or still text message) I'd totally disable adblock.

I once disabled adblock on phoronix, saw animations and what not, enabled it back quickly. The last thing I want is feeling like I run IE6 on a porn site in 2002.

[Creak]

Yeah, if the ads were ONLY still images (and/or still text message) I'd totally disable adblock.

I once disabled adblock on phoronix, saw animations and what not, enabled it back quickly. The last thing I want is feeling like I run IE6 on a porn site in 2002.

To Michael's defense, I don't think he has the same popularity as Ars Technica. Thus he probably can filter its ads as more popular sites could do.
I think that you can't blame Michael too much for that.

Of course, there are limits, but as long as there is not too much flashing images, no sound activated by default and no inopportune pop-ups or pop-overs, I consider the site to be valid for displaying ads (we also have to change our mindset too, we can't have everything just for free).

That being said, there are pop-ups sometime on Phoronix.. And I really don't think that's a good idea if you want people to deactivate their ad blocker.

[Michael]

To Michael's defense, I don't think he has the same popularity as Ars Technica. Thus he probably can filter its ads as more popular sites could do.
I think that you can't blame Michael too much for that.

Of course, there are limits, but as long as there is not too much flashing images, no sound activated by default and no inopportune pop-ups or pop-overs, I consider the site to be valid for displaying ads (we also have to change our mindset too, we can't have everything just for free).

That being said, there are pop-ups sometime on Phoronix.. And I really don't think that's a good idea if you want people to deactivate their ad blocker.

Right, compared to Ars or Tom's, or any other Windows hardware site, advertising is much tougher.... Major PC companies that run such ads there aren't yet interested in targeting "Linux enthusiasts" or any "Linux desktop". The only company having run a Linux desktop targeted campaign is System76 and their budget is incredibly tiny where as most our ads are either enterprise-market ads or totally unrelated ads. I wish I was able to reject more ads but there simply aren't enough.

There shouldn't be pop-ups but perhaps a once per day welcome scree/ overlay ad on the first visit to the site. This is done sometime for select geos as for those ads they usually pay A LOT in comparison to normal ads.

[Kivada]

@Michael:

I find it extremely inappropriate to wine about ad blockers right in the middle of an article.
We all know that your site depends mostly on ads, you've repeated it enough times and adblocker's placeholders always reminds us that anyway.

If you want to know, I don't use adblocker anymore, but I still don't like your reaction toward adblockers. Especially when you bloat your site with *seven* ads per article (plus, sometime, a popup) and *five* ads per forum page.
If you still miss some money after that, maybe there is a problem somewhere else. You're not the only tech site on which the author gets paid thanks to ads, and the other tech sites have ad blocker problems too, but they try to address the problem differently.

Yeah, it's another boo-fucking-hoo about adblockers instead of focusing on content. http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/08...one-230-a-year shows how insignificant adblocking is to a site's bottom line when an annual fee of only $230 USD would cover the browsing of the hundreds of thousands of pages the average person loads in a year.

But as aways, Larabel would rather whine instead of expand his content base.

[Kivada]

Right, compared to Ars or Tom's, or any other Windows hardware site, advertising is much tougher.... Major PC companies that run such ads there aren't yet interested in targeting "Linux enthusiasts" or any "Linux desktop". The only company having run a Linux desktop targeted campaign is System76 and their budget is incredibly tiny where as most our ads are either enterprise-market ads or totally unrelated ads. I wish I was able to reject more ads but there simply aren't enough.

There shouldn't be pop-ups but perhaps a once per day welcome scree/ overlay ad on the first visit to the site. This is done sometime for select geos as for those ads they usually pay A LOT in comparison to normal ads.

So expand your content, I've already listed off all the angles you fail to cover a dozen times in the past. Bitching wont bring those numbers up.