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    Phoronix: Ubuntu's FIle Manager App Has A Long TODO List

    Besides finally moving onto BlueZ 5, developers during the first day of Ubuntu 15.04's online summit also discussed the improvements still needed to be done for the "File Manager" application used by the Ubuntu Phone/Touch stack and eventually by the desktop Ubuntu under Unity 8...

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    Sounds like they should just reskin Dolphin, which has all those features (and give its needed QML upgrade), rather than reinvent the wheel for the trillionth time.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by zanny View Post
      Sounds like they should just reskin Dolphin, which has all those features (and give its needed QML upgrade), rather than reinvent the wheel for the trillionth time.
      but would it be Ubuntu to do that?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by zanny View Post
        Sounds like they should just reskin Dolphin, which has all those features (and give its needed QML upgrade), rather than reinvent the wheel for the trillionth time.
        I believe they are going through this whole effort of making everything of their own (including the infamous Mir display server) just to have full copyright of the entire software stack of the Ubuntu phone experience (not including the Linux kernel of course). This allows them to license it to manufacturers with a non-open/proprietary license. (Remember that contributing to canonical-owned code requires you to sign a CLA)

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        • #5
          Ubuntu Next Gen apps on Ubuntu 14.10: http://youtu.be/0qRG7EYHW54


          The only critical feature for phone would be the SD card not appears in places yet. The other ones are desktop oriented mostly

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          • #6
            Among the items still left on the file manager TODO list include multi-select files, support for SD cards to appear within "Places", support for extracting more file archives (including .tar, .bz2, .tar.bz2 and many other common compressed file formats), drag and drop support with the desktop, support for multiple tabs, support for accessing network drives (Samba, NFS, FTP, etc), support for bookmarks, more keyboard shortcuts support, better localization support, and many other changes.
            What are they doing? Why aren't they working TOGETHER with the KDE community? KDE has mechanisms for much of what they want, they just lack a QML facing interface to use them from within QML. The API's are there. Sure, it would probably require them to use KIO and some more KDE specific stuff, but it would be a win-win situation for both parties if canonical invests some time in making those KDE API's work properly on mobile devices with QML exposure. It would certainly be a much shorter development time then doing everything all over again (then again, canonical heavily suffers from the NIH syndrome).

            To sum it up. KDE has the API's for the following points of their todo:
            • all the places related stuff via kio
            • extracting archives.. KArchive.
            • SAMBA, NFS, FTP, etc.. KIO!
            • Bookmarks: KBookmarks

            Other points are merely QML based issues that is just a matter of using QML.
            • keyboard shortcuts: plain QML, Action component
            • multiple tabs
            • drag/drop

            I think it's clear what they need to do...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by markg85 View Post
              What are they doing? Why aren't they working TOGETHER with the KDE community? KDE has mechanisms for much of what they want, they just lack a QML facing interface to use them from within QML. The API's are there. Sure, it would probably require them to use KIO and some more KDE specific stuff, but it would be a win-win situation for both parties if canonical invests some time in making those KDE API's work properly on mobile devices with QML exposure. It would certainly be a much shorter development time then doing everything all over again (then again, canonical heavily suffers from the NIH syndrome).

              To sum it up. KDE has the API's for the following points of their todo:
              • all the places related stuff via kio
              • extracting archives.. KArchive.
              • SAMBA, NFS, FTP, etc.. KIO!
              • Bookmarks: KBookmarks

              Other points are merely QML based issues that is just a matter of using QML.
              • keyboard shortcuts: plain QML, Action component
              • multiple tabs
              • drag/drop

              I think it's clear what they need to do...
              Riddle me this: what's wrong with them doing whatever they want with their developers on their time with their money? Why does everyone have to use the same APIs?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mmstick View Post
                Riddle me this: what's wrong with them doing whatever they want with their developers on their time with their money? Why does everyone have to use the same APIs?
                No. My post was clear.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mmstick View Post
                  Riddle me this: what's wrong with them doing whatever they want with their developers on their time with their money? Why does everyone have to use the same APIs?
                  Of course they are allowed to do whatever they want. Just like we are allowed to have an opinion on whether their decision is the best one. Of course they have the final say, but that doesn't mean we can't have our own opinions.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by markg85 View Post
                    No. My post was clear.
                    If you mean clear as in naive logical fallacies, sure.

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