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    Phoronix: FreeBSD Making Progress With Their Linux Binary Emulation & More

    The FreeBSD project made much progress during this past quarter (Q2'2015) on many fronts from working on FreeBSD 10.2 to landing new work in FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT for improving their Linux binary emulation layer...

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  • #2
    Wow, Fedora 10 (from 2008) and Centos 6? Looks like gaming on FreeBSD will not be possible anytime soon (I mean with non-FOSS Linux games).

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    • #3
      It's interesting how BSD in their pathetic futile effort to be as useful as Linux without being Linux ends up literally using Linux. ;D

      By creating a Linux competability layer, BSD has just shown that Linux not BSD is a useful OS while BSD is useless.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by stqn View Post
        Wow, Fedora 10 (from 2008) and Centos 6… Looks like gaming on FreeBSD will not be possible anytime soon (I mean with non-FOSS Linux games).
        BSD nuts love to make anything impossible or hard to do on their little piece of crap OS.

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        • #5
          Working towards the FreeBSD 10.2-RELEASE to happen around the end of August.
          More like end January 2016. Remember the delay with FreeBSD 9.1? Man that was a circus.

          HardenedBSD (a FreeBSD downstream) finished up their core implementation of ASLR, Address Space Layout Randomization.
          Man, 14 years after Linux and 9 years after Windows BSD finally has ASLR in the testing stage. They sure are the most secure OS LOLOLOLOL.

          Bhyve continues to make progress as FreeBSD's virtualization hypervisor.
          Of course no one would use that on FreeBSD. Most of the bhyve?s uses with be on Mac OSX as xhyve: https://github.com/mist64/xhyve And more shocking news, it will be all FreeBSD ?devs? and fanboys who will be using bhyve as xhyve on Mac OSX cause they don?t use BSD, they use OSX.

          The FreeBSD Linux Binary Emulation Layer continues to advance and there's new work in FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT that should be back-ported prior to the 10.2-RELEASE. By the end of the year they hope to have these emulation layers both for Fedora 10, CentOS 6 32-bit, and CentOS 6 64-bit. They'll also be starting work on a CentOS 7 64-bit framework, which aims to be usable in Q2'2016.
          Why go through all the pain trying to run apps on some hideously out of date Linux emulation layer when you can just run it easily and with faster performance on a true and actual Linux?

          FreeBSD is making progress on PCI Express hot-plug support.
          Progress made by Linux in 2003

          FreeBSD has some new ACPI code for enhancing their sleep state handling for modern Intel CPUs.
          Which was already in Linux in 2003

          The operating system's port to the Cavium ThunderX 64-bit ARM platform now has SMP support and can run on all 48 of the ARMv8 CPU cores for this system. There's also been many bug-fixes and other improvements. The ARM64 code in general for FreeBSD has too improved a lot over the past three months.
          5 years after Linux

          There wasn't much work on the i915 Intel DRM driver for FreeBSD this quarter, but more work is expected in Q3 by September.
          Linux has full Broadwell support and incorporating Skylake

          The FreeBSD project has raised over $361,000 from over 500 donors so far this year.
          From shady proprietary corporate fucks or organisations like M$, NSA, CLA, proprietary fanboys and terrorists

          There's now UEFI boot-loader support for loading/booting from a ZFS file-system.
          Old stuff. Nothing to see here.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by stqn View Post
            Wow, Fedora 10 (from 2008) and Centos 6… Looks like gaming on FreeBSD will not be possible anytime soon (I mean with non-FOSS Linux games).
            Well, probably not until FreeBSD 11.0 is released no, for linux native games anyway. You can play them with Wine though, and there's even a PlayOnBSD fork of PlayOnLinux, and of course anything that is an OSS game will probably work.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by endman View Post
              It's interesting how BSD in their pathetic futile effort to be as useful as Linux without being Linux ends up literally using Linux. ;D

              By creating a Linux competability layer, BSD has just shown that Linux not BSD is a useful OS while BSD is useless.

              hm...
              It's interesting how Linux in their pathetic futile effort to be as useful as Windows without being Windows ends up literally using Windows. ;D

              By creating a Windows competability layer, Linux has just shown that Windows not Linux is a useful OS while Linux is useless.


              Also on that note, this is actually one of the great things about BSD, it has a pluggable ABI system thus allowing them to be Compatible with Linux, Solaris, etc as necessary.

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              • #8
                In fact their "linux emulation" code stuck somewhere around ancient, pre-historic 2.6.22 kernels or so. Because as far as I know, BSDs totally lack anything comparable to cgroups and namespaces. That's why they suck so hard when it comes to containers. Hence they can't provide Linux programs with equivalent of these features. Failing to mimic ancient 2.6.22 kernel only counts as "achievement" in BSD world :P.

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                • #9
                  Linux emulation is a dead end. The push should be on software that takes any sane *nix. What is so wrong with ports? What is wrong with make?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BBoingo View Post
                    Linux emulation is a dead end. The push should be on software that takes any sane *nix. What is so wrong with ports? What is wrong with make?
                    How about the fact that proprietary software is both popular and required for serious consideration as an OS by most people, and that some of said proprietary software is is made to work on Linux but not FreeBSD, and that not having that compatibility is therefore a hinderance to increasing market share which is required in order to be targeted by said proprietary software vendors which will then allow it to have more market share?

                    And if your response to that is, "Well I don't want more market share" then you're an idiot, because the one thing the BSDs desperately need right now is more developers, and the only way to get that is to increase market and mind share.

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