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    Phoronix: NVIDIA Releases Updated Vulkan Driver

    One week after being first out the gate with a Vulkan driver for x86 Linux, NVIDIA has released an updated Vulkan graphics driver for Linux and Windows with a few more changes...

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    I have a GT740m in my laptop (yes, optimus...), and though it's based on the Kepler architecture, it's not listed on the linked driver page. Apart from the Quadro notebook chips, only desktop ones seem to be supported. Any info on wether or not Nvidia eventually plans to extend its Vulkan support when it gets out of beta?

    I also wonder when they'll start supporting Wayland and the like.

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    • #3
      It looks like Fermi hardware which support OpenGL4 don't support Vulcan.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by hussam View Post
        It looks like Fermi hardware which support OpenGL4 don't support Vulcan.

        Yeah because they say the install base is too small, which is total bullshit of course. In the Steam HW Stats ~10% of all users have a Fermi based CPU. That is around 12 Million people. Relative to only NVIDIA cards the share is close to 20%, which means they think it's not worth it to support 1/5th of their customers, despite there not being a technical reason why they can't support Fermi and supporting Fermi as part of the mainline driver branch.

        If AMDGPU turns out good and gets a Vulkan driver eventually and Polaris is as efficient as they claim, next cards is going to be from AMD.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by blackout23 View Post


          Yeah because they say the install base is too small, which is total bullshit of course. In the Steam HW Stats ~10% of all users have a Fermi based CPU. That is around 12 Million people. Relative to only NVIDIA cards the share is close to 20%, which means they think it's not worth it to support 1/5th of their customers, despite there not being a technical reason why they can't support Fermi and supporting Fermi as part of the mainline driver branch.

          If AMDGPU turns out good and gets a Vulkan driver eventually and Polaris is as efficient as they claim, next cards is going to be from AMD.
          They want you to buy new hardware, just like AMD. Expect support dropping sooner and sooner. It will be more important if your next one will be AMD, they are already at dropping support 2 years after release, even less after the last unit is manufactured. (Think of the 7990 and AMDGPU. Released in 2013, dropped in 2015.)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by blackout23 View Post


            Yeah because they say the install base is too small, which is total bullshit of course. In the Steam HW Stats ~10% of all users have a Fermi based CPU. That is around 12 Million people. Relative to only NVIDIA cards the share is close to 20%, which means they think it's not worth it to support 1/5th of their customers, despite there not being a technical reason why they can't support Fermi and supporting Fermi as part of the mainline driver branch.
            That is a red herring.
            If Fermi has 10% market share today, it will have less that 10% when titles supporting Vulkan will be released. And by that time (at least 1 year, I expect), Fermi cards won't probably have enough horsepower for new titles anyway. I mean, aside from the dual-GPU card, the best Fermi has to offer is the GTX 580. Which is about 33% slower than a GTX 960 which isn't exactly a card you'd want for gaming today.
            Long story short, they have to draw the line somewhere and no matter where they cut, there will always be someone wishing they'd support just one more generation.

            Originally posted by blackout23 View Post
            If AMDGPU turns out good and gets a Vulkan driver eventually and Polaris is as efficient as they claim, next cards is going to be from AMD.
            That's three ifs in there. Assuming each precondition has an 80% chance of happening (and independent events), you have a 0.8 * 0.8 * 0.8 = 0.4096 ~ 41% chance of buying AMD </fun_w_statistics>

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            • #7
              Originally posted by blackout23 View Post
              Relative to only NVIDIA cards the share is close to 20%, which means they think it's not worth it to support 1/5th of their customers, despite there not being a technical reason why they can't support Fermi and supporting Fermi as part of the mainline driver branch.
              Well, it also depends on how difficult it is to add support - maybe workarounds have to be added. I don't know, just throwing out an idea.

              Plus, it's an old architecture that's losing market share. By the time they add support there will be even fewer users for it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bug77 View Post

                That is a red herring.
                If Fermi has 10% market share today, it will have less that 10% when titles supporting Vulkan will be released.
                10% TOTAL market share. That also includes all AMD and Intel cards. For NVIDIA internally they don't have to care about AMD and Intel the share is much larger. Also a GTX 590 or 580 is still faster than popular cards like the 750 Ti or their Tegra chips.
                Last edited by blackout23; 24 February 2016, 09:48 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by eydee View Post
                  They want you to buy new hardware, just like AMD. Expect support dropping sooner and sooner. It will be more important if your next one will be AMD, they are already at dropping support 2 years after release, even less after the last unit is manufactured. (Think of the 7990 and AMDGPU. Released in 2013, dropped in 2015.)
                  Please stop trolling. We are not dropping support for GCN parts. You know this.

                  If you are talking ONLY about dropping Linux Catalyst's Crossfire support (that didn't really help on modern games anyways) then you could call that "dropping a feature" but it's a heck of a stretch calling that "dropping support".
                  Last edited by bridgman; 24 February 2016, 09:22 AM.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bug77 View Post
                    That's three ifs in there. Assuming each precondition has an 80% chance of happening (and independent events), you have a 0.8 * 0.8 * 0.8 = 0.4096 ~ 41% chance of buying AMD </fun_w_statistics>
                    I don't think there's any real doubt AMDGPU will support Vulkan and Polaris cards have already been demonstrated in public showing significantly improved performance efficiency; so the only variable which is really unknown is if AMDGPU will turn out to be any good.

                    Based on the AMD open source drivers already getting within a reasonable distance of the Catalyst performance in most benchmarks and in some cases matching Catalyst performance, I would say the probability of AMDGPU eventually turning out well is also pretty high.

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