NetworkManager 1.4 Feature Update Prepares For Release

[phoronix]

Phoronix: NetworkManager 1.4 Feature Update Prepares For Release

The first release candidate to NetworkManager 1.4 feature update is now available for testing...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NetworkManager-1.4-RC

[Hi-Angel]

NetworkManager is now compiled with --gc-sections to reduce executable size

So many things people can do, just to not finally set `-flto` option by default.

[Anvil]

people still use NetworkMangler ?

[Dick Palmer]

Among the new/improved functionality coming to NetworkManager 1.4 has... support for oFono as modem manager...

For a moment there I thought the "new/improved functionality" finally included POTS/PPP dialup!!!!!!!! ...but no. oFono is only GSM/UMTS.

Maybe by 2116?

[Ericg]

people still use NetworkMangler ?

Yuuuuuuuup, the vast majority of distros in fact.

[Hi-Angel]

people still use NetworkMangler ?

What does mean still? In office I migrated from manual editing of `/etc/network/interfaces` to NetworkManger.

NetworkManager unifies a bunch of vastly different network utilities under `nmcil` command utility, and various graphic frontends to it. I think "still" doesn't apply here, it should be used instead of directly configuring a bunch of otherwise not connected between themselves daemons.

[lkundrak]

So many things people can do, just to not finally set `-flto` option by default.

Yes, and for a good reason: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/Network...5dcbe462068b2b

LTO is documented to break debuginfo, is considerably slower and brings just 3% size improvement compared to dropping the unused symbols. You're free to enable LTO by passing --with-lto to configure script yourself, but it doesn't seem like a good default.

[Hi-Angel]

Yes, and for a good reason: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/Network...5dcbe462068b2b

LTO is documented to break debuginfo

Of course. And that doesn't sound like a good reason even a bit! Release is release, it have to be optimized as possible, and debug symbols does not belong here. They'd be anyway broken in some way due to optimization.

, is considerably slower

So what? It is release, it is not used for debugging. I could agree if we were talking about a big project, like browsers. But for NetworkManager it'd add just a minute of time once upon a time, when someone bulds release.

and brings just 3% size improvement compared to dropping the unused symbols.

Yeah, except that upon seeing all the object files it optimizes *much* better, and that my point wasn't to compare quality of `--gc-sections` to `-flto`, but that I doesn't see why to not enable the best available optimization instead of nitpicking.

You're free to enable LTO by passing --with-lto to configure script yourself, but it doesn't seem like a good default.

It does seem.

[starshipeleven]

people still use NetworkMangler ?

Is there something else, apart from Yast that is OpenSUSE-only?

[starshipeleven]

For a moment there I thought the "new/improved functionality" finally included POTS/PPP dialup!!!!!!!! ...but no. oFono is only GSM/UMTS.
Maybe by 2116?

Uhm, what do you need that for?
Last time I checked, keeping a PC slaved to a plain modem for internet connection was still a Bad Idea^TM on linux just as it was on Windows.
Routers usually don't use NetworkManager to communicate to modems.

Do you still want to make plain phone calls from your PC in a day and age where people start dropping landline contracts unless they are bundled with an internet contract (which is what they actually need)?