Debian 8.7 Jessie Released

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Debian 8.7 Jessie Released

For those riding Debian 8 "Jessie" until the stable debut of Debian 9 "Stretch", Debian 8.7 is available this weekend...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Debian-8.7-Released

[waxhead]

Good job Debian!

[Marc Driftmeyer]

No one outside a contract organization touches Stable. They are all on Sid; and Sid needs some serious maintenance, not the least of which is to fix the libclc broken package that is built against LLVM 3.8, while the baseline LLVM is now 3.9.

[dungeon]

Debian Stable - utter stable, as always

[waxhead]

No one outside a contract organization touches Stable. They are all on Sid; and Sid needs some serious maintenance, not the least of which is to fix the libclc broken package that is built against LLVM 3.8, while the baseline LLVM is now 3.9.

No one? well I use Debian stable for several projects and are touching SID (Debian unstable) at all.
Debian have three distributions: Stable, Testing and unstable.

For a package to be migrated from unstable -> testing it have to...
1. be in the unstable pool for 10 (5 or 2 if urgent) days,
2. be able to compile for all architectures
3. have no dependencies conflicts
4. must not break already existing packages in testing.

The details can be found here https://www.debian.org/devel/testing

debianxfce
You claim that Debian stable is NOT stable? well have a look here: https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/
Just take a look at what kind of bugs are reported? how many of those applies to you? do you use all the packages that happen to have those 400 bugs in it at once?
Do you care (that much) about a bug filed about a license - at least 10 of the bugs I looked at quickly now simply addresses licensing issues and are not a bug filed against the functionality of a package.
Debian just released a point release for stable and fixed many bugs as well.

The point is that the Debian STABLE distribution is STABLE , e.g. not a lot of activity going on except fixes for grave bugs (that includes security issues) which for many is fine. If you use Stable you usually runs something that needs to run. E.g. you make it work and keep it working for years and years without too many changes.

If you pull stuff from Ubuntu or other distros into a STABLE debian enviroment it sounds like you should be running testing or even SID instead. Running testing gives you updated packages anyway, you just have to wait a few weeks or so for it, but it will work. Good luck

[dungeon]

Debian have three distributions: Stable, Testing and unstable.

There are four actually, people often forget that Old-Stable or Debian (currently Wheezy) with extended support or LTS, that is still supported till May 2018.

There are no forced upgrades from one stable to new stable, altough that is recommended for most Desktop users... 2 years is considered fine enough to upgrade, otherwise plus 1 year or another plus 2 years of extended possibility is there, for those who like... well, only there on extended i can agree with Marc that is mostly because of contract (and paying) organizations

[waxhead]

There are four actually, people often forget that Old-Stable or Debian (currently Wheezy) with extended support or LTS, that is still supported till May 2018.

Yup, you are absolutely correct. I was considering mentioning experimental just to spice things up a bit, but completely forgot about old-stable which may in fact be very relevant for some. Thanks for the correction

[dungeon]

"experimental" is not a distro it is just helper repo for sid, in similar why what is "backports" repo for stable... it is for those who can't wait enough, can't compile, don't know how to backport something manually if something does not work, wanna upgrade just something, etc... first aid for manual use repos if you want

[pmorph]

The point is that the Debian STABLE distribution is STABLE , e.g. not a lot of activity going on except fixes for grave bugs (that includes security issues) which for many is fine.

Exactly. With testing/sid there is always a real risk that apt-get upgrade breaks stuff *that worked just fine five minutes earlier*. With stable this kind of incidents are extremely rare.

[cliff]

No one outside a contract organization touches Stable. They are all on Sid; and Sid needs some serious maintenance, not the least of which is to fix the libclc broken package that is built against LLVM 3.8, while the baseline LLVM is now 3.9.

I have been using Debian Stable exclusively for over five years with very few issues! So glad I moved away from windowz..