NetworkManager 1.8 Released

[phoronix]

Phoronix: NetworkManager 1.8 Released

NetworkManager 1.8 is now available as the latest version of this widely-used network management component to Linux systems...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NetworkManager-1.8-Released

[starshipeleven]

Made by RH/Gnome.. Might be usefulnoutside the reference desktop stack as well.

It's used by everyone else, yes. There is no competition with it since like 2013.

[starshipeleven]

Yeah, the RH/Gnome stack is very useful. Like Gstreamer. Even KDE realized this. Is the awful phonon-switchero even maintained anymore?

Phonon is a compatibility layer meant to allow applications to work cross-platform, on Linux it offloads on Gstreamer usually, on Windows on something else and on OSX on something else too.

And yes, it's still maintained. But again, it's not competing with Gstreamer, it's a cross-platform compatibility layer.

[starshipeleven]

I know what Phonon is.

No you don't. Phonon isn't competing with Gstreamer, it's a compatibility layer to allow applications to work cross-platform without having to target and maintain 3 different backends (one of which is Gstreamer). It's not a multimedia framework, it's a compatibility layer.

And I really dislike how it is used to not commit to Gstreamer. Yes we all know KDE failed with their own media stack in the past, but that is a lame excuse not to use Gstreamer and help develop it.

Huh? They are two different types of applications, what is there in Phonon to commit in Gstreamer?

Soo NIH of KDE. As expected Gstreamer pulled ahead anyway and is now the primary use also on KDE. It is funny how the letter G can make KDE do the wrog things.

No, Phonon is useful in places where Gstreamer failed (Windows or Mac) so you can use your application there regardless. See? KDE must bridge GNOME's failures, as always.

[elvenbone]

As expected Gstreamer pulled ahead anyway and is now the primary use also on KDE.

Phonon is very useful - it allows you to avoid GStreamer and use the VLC backend instead!

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUwNDM

[starshipeleven]

Starship. Sure I know what Phonon is.

No you don't, because you still seem to not acknowledge that it is NOT a multimedia framework like Gstreamer, but just a multi-platform compatibility system that uses different backends depending on the OS.

There is no need for this switchero on Linux.

True, you probably missed the part where I said "cross-platform with Windows and Mac". There is no Gstreamer there (usually).

Elvenbone. Adding even more compability code and media frameworks with distinct bugs will only make the problems worse.

Not if they offload to VLC. VLC is awesome.