RadeonSI ARB_bindless_texture Revised, Nearly Ready For Mesa 17.2 Git

[phoronix]

Phoronix: RadeonSI ARB_bindless_texture Revised, Nearly Ready For Mesa 17.2 Git

Samuel Pitoiset working for Valve has published his third -- and expected to be final revision -- of his massive patch-set readying Mesa and specifically the RadeonSI driver for OpenGL ARB_bindless_texture support...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=RadeonSI-Bindless-Tex-V3

[jrch2k8]

Awesome, one step closer to ZDO

[Azpegath]

Awesome, one step closer to ZDO

True, but how many will do AZDO instead of just moving over to Vulkan?

[jrch2k8]

True, but how many will do AZDO instead of just moving over to Vulkan?

for those that already have existent applications using OpenGL, for those that can't afford the complexity of Vulkan/D3D12/Metal, Indie Game engines, etc for a while until Low Level API tools make it easy enough for those developers

[Azpegath]

for those that already have existent applications using OpenGL, for those that can't afford the complexity of Vulkan/D3D12/Metal, Indie Game engines, etc for a while until Low Level API tools make it easy enough for those developers

But do you think AZDO will be a reasonable technique for "Indie Game Engines"? Will they need the (possible) performance gain of it, and be willing to spend the time needed for updating their code to start using it?
I believe that many developers (I'm looking at the latest Khronos videos from the Vulkanised! event right now) are starting to find/realize that the "complexity" of Vulkan isn't actually that complex, and that getting rid of the OpenGL baggage is worth the lift to Vulkan. For instance the Feral talk.

[jrch2k8]

But do you think AZDO will be a reasonable technique for "Indie Game Engines"? Will they need the (possible) performance gain of it, and be willing to spend the time needed for updating their code to start using it?
I believe that many developers (I'm looking at the latest Khronos videos from the Vulkanised! event right now) are starting to find/realize that the "complexity" of Vulkan isn't actually that complex, and that getting rid of the OpenGL baggage is worth the lift to Vulkan. For instance the Feral talk.

I agree but this is one of those cases that is better to have it and don't need it than need it and don't have it.

[pal666]

True, but how many will do AZDO instead of just moving over to Vulkan?

all who already do azdo and don't do vulkan

[Azpegath]

all who already do azdo and don't do vulkan

Well, that goes without saying. But how many are those? 5? 10?

[Azpegath]

Well, that goes without saying. But how many are those? 5? 10?

Let me just state that I think that it's awesome that the drivers are finally getting this, and that I/we DO really want a complete and performant OpenGL driver.. I don't want that to somehow be misinterpreted by coming off as negative. So my post wasn't about that, I was just wondering, "who will actually be using this?".