Vincent there is no such thing in this world, nothing is moronproof or idiotproof cuz they are always improving their idiocy, aka everyday they are more idiot than the previous
But what do people actually want to do with a computer? Writing a text document? So why isn't it as simple as:
-Turning it on;
-Navigating computer functions by means of navigation your desk: with you eyes or sliding with a finger;
-Grabbing it (tap on it "I want to do... this!" *tap* ... and bam!");
-Turning it off with a button.
It's basically like:
-Click the ballpoint pen;
-Start writing where you want to write;
So yeah we know how to do all that shit, and yes most people may be stupid, but that's the most stupid way to make a computer work. Really, think about it for a second.
And no Apple and Gnome do suck when it comes to actual real usability.
I couldn't imagine a more true to life interface than Windows 8. I realy can't, sorry. I think it's dead brilliant. And I don't care if it's a kiosk interface that has been around for ages if this makes computers actually useful for people so that they stop coming to me with "How do I do this stupid simple thing?".
PS: I'm extremely convinced that Microsoft is going to be very, very, very succesful with this. They might even steal back some iCrapple converts. I'm also worried about Linux. This is going to take back marketshare.
However in real life even the elderly have become accustomed to a standard desktop interface. All this has done is basically locked a end user into a set non-forgiving way of doing things. It will not, as you put it, prevent people from asking "How do I do this stupid simple thing?". If anything it is going to increase that question being asked as what people were used doing are now limited as to what they can do. We have all seen attempts at a dumbed down UI done many times before (remember the first EEE PC UI's, MS BOB, Splashtop, etc) there comes a point where it becomes it becomes too dumbed down for what a person wants to do on a computer. Kiosks UI's are fine for portable, set-top devices where a limited functionality is expected but a computers UI is expected to be able to do much more.
yeah, touch screens are sooo awesome. All those smudges and dirt... looks reaaaaallly cool and is sooo helpfull...
To my mind Linux users seem far to focused on the overall GUI in the battle to win over users. KDE, gnome 2, and even gnome 3 (although needing a little polish) are great.
The issues people who come to linux are going to face is likely more to do with installing software, finding linux software that does the required job and quite possibly dealing with driver issues.
Distros like linux mint and even chakra (which i think is still only in rc1) have a huge advantage over many distros for new users as they tend to have all the drivers installed out of the box.
Even accent old KDE 3.5 was better than anything Microsoft has ever managed to produced GUI wise.
Like with anything, you might have to tell them how it works, but not totally re-educate the freaking alphabet every time they want to do something else with the same tool. Just once you just take 5 minutes of your time and you can leave them alone. Gnome was a giant leap over the Windows < 8 interface, but it was still a pain in the ass.Quote:
It will not, as you put it, prevent people from asking "How do I do this stupid simple thing?".
I have the first EEE PC model with that 11 inch screen. It was a great leap forward. I remember myself saying that it was the first well designed computer, ever. The problem, however, was that it was not capable of converting MS Office documents, Firefox frequently crashed and it was an isolated piece of software.Quote:
We have all seen attempts at a dumbed down UI done many times before (remember the first EEE PC UI's, MS BOB, Splashtop, etc) there comes a point where it becomes it becomes too dumbed down for what a person wants to do on a computer.
Much more? Seriously... do what more? More than E17 and KDE?, because Gnome or Windows > 8 doesn't offer anything useful over that Kiosk interface.Quote:
Kiosks UI's are fine for portable, set-top devices where a limited functionality is expected but a computers UI is expected to be able to do much more.
It seems all the "big players" are going for the mobilesque interface.. by big players, I mean GNOME and Microsoft..
It's said that Win8 will be able to run on ARM chips. Maybe Microsoft is trying to create a unified windows OS that runs on mobile devices as well as the typical desktop? But will they be able to beat Debian at being the "Universal OS?"
Steve Ballmer has already showed it running on Tegra and Texas Instrument chips. Office has been recompiled for ARM. Intel has spread FUD about nothing working due to x86 programs.
It also doesn't strike me as all that innovative. It's nothing we haven't seen in tablets/smartphones in some form. It is bold, but not innovative.