Why would they care about laptops? IBM only sells servers, Google only uses servers or mobile phones (platforms where this power regression doesn't come into play) and Red Hat mainly focuses on servers. I think the big question is where Ubuntu is, they should be the ones that has most customers targeted by this issue right now.Quote:
IBM, Google, RedHat? Where are you?
I can see Linus releasing RCs leading up to 3.1 and saying: "oh nothing interesting in this release...and other bullcrap" instead of doing something about the regressions that would benefit regular users.
Wow, all you people are retarded, this was an intel issue and the reason that they disabled that by default is because it was still buggy. Blaming linus for something that was clearly a smart decision by the Intel DRM devs. They chose stability over power consumption, its as easy as that. Its the same thing with the ASPM power regression by defaulting to it being enabled they had issues arise so they had to fix the issues. Yes it sucks for those who didn't have those stability issues with it enabled but at least it has a better chance of it working for those who did.
Also I know for a fact that Michael has said he doesn't report bugs of bisect things because it would take time from writing articles and gathering the data within them. He rarely digs deeper into the issues by doing things like bisecting or finding an linking to relevant upstream bugs, in fact he rarely even links to where to find more info, though once in a while he'll include a link to the relevant ML. The articles only "links" are just links to his older articles, which is fine, but he spams them so much without linking offsite or to sources it seems he is just trying to get more page views and thus more ad revenue rather than trying to actually inform the reader better.
Stop calling this a regression. Seriously it is retarded. As you found out by bisecting earlier the "regression" was introduced with a patch that sets values _according to what hardware says_. I would hardly call that a regression. If hardware is faulty it's not the software's responsibility to second guess that. So until hardware has been tested and white flagged this is the way it will stay, and that's how it should be - if you think otherwise, like Michael, you are a fool. So stop spewing garbage about regressions when you have no clue what you are talking about.
It is just like the situation with the WINE project where the WINE developers fix stuff to match Microsoft's documentation and everything breaks because the quirks that Windows programs depended upon having are no longer there. Those are regressions too.
I use powertop as well, and my system is pretty similiar to yours (you didn't mention the screen size, but I'll assume 14"-15").
Mine is T510 with M620 (i7 2.66GHz) 15" screen @ 1600x900, intel HD graphics and I'm generally in the 18-20W range while IDLE (with FF/Xchat/evince/etc open). Really odd that I'm running through so much more power.
What configuration did you do?