I would never bash a company for making a native Linux client. Why? Because at least they had the guts to do it. Big companies like EA or Activision won't because they care way to much about the bottom line. s2games is on our side and at least they are trying. They don't have to make a Linux native version of there game and yet they do.
They understand there is an untapped market for gamers out there and they want it. So please do not bash a company for making a native client. If you have a problem with their game help them with it by actually giving them good feedback.
Pull up the game logs and see if there are errors. Try with different drivers and graphics settings. Even different distro's can have an impact because of the different xorg servers and kernels.
Getting 50 people together and saying you get low fps or there ogl renderer is bad will help no one. You have to give tangible problems for them to look at. Telling a company in the tech forums or wherever that linux people should just use wine and the windows client will just make them stop producing Linux native games and I am sure we all don't want that. Look at Blizzard. They had a Linux port of Wow, but it worked so well in wine and whatever other reasons they had they decided not to release it.
i get really bad performance through wine. fps is not smooth at all. drops down to 10 every once a while.
with native HoN client i get really smooth framerate with tearfree enabled from catalyst and no performance problems except huge fights.
i think S2 games have done really good linux clients so far for all the savage series and new HoN.
oh and fyi its not th linux client that has the problem its the ogl renderer.
f you want to compare hon in wine or native you really should switch to ogl on the windows client.
s2 know their utilisation of ogl is very poor (it spends too much time managing textures eating resources - effects win as well since common gfx engine).
only recently has the ogl renderer been looked at with very high water quality, something windows-dx cant reliably do at the moment.
so dont bash s2 for the linuc client, it is actually very good, knock them for their ogl renderer and thus again that thread did not belong in tech since nothing client-side can fix their utilisation.
such a post in the bugs forum would have been better (and would not have been deleted) or in suggestions for improved ogl
also linux drivers are quite poor. even the improved ati are still poor (cant dualhead and fullscreenaj
likewise desktop interaction with the drivers does not help be it kwin/cutter failed 3d overlay wrt 3d fullscreen or forcing 2d notification events all these thing do not help (and thats why i suggested starting hon in a new xserver)
the linux clind isn't a alms to the poor linux people.
we the "linux" users do have the right for the same good graphic and performance result!
certainly if the windows clind runs like that in wine!
they make clear it isn't a support question its a suggestion means you pay the full price of the game but you don't have the right for the same good result and you have to beg in a suggestion to get your RIGHT!
Suggestion LOL!!!!! this word makes me so angry!
because its not a Suggestion !
they claim to support linux but they only do alms to linux people!
i will never write an suggestion to S2 games because this is a insult to me.
its a Insult to claim i do not have the right for full graphic and full speed with my linux clind.
i drop the linux clind on my system.
because the nativ linux clind is not writen to work with AMD/ATI hardware well.
if you use AMD hardware you are forced to use the windows clind.
you play on linux just to get bad graphic and low speed? LOL you are kidding!
to make people happy with linux you need to get the best solution for linux and if the best solution is based on wine thats the way to go!
i can imagine the cause of your bad wine result.
you do have an openGL 2.1 graphic card or an driver with only openGL2.1 support.
then wine falls back to the OpenGL 2.1shader directX to openGL renderer.
you only get this extremely good performance result if your graphic card can handle openGL3.3 and your driver to.
because of the wine speed up openGL extensions.
the openGL renderer IS the linux clind. because no one use ist on windows!
sure they use the openGL renderer in macos to but not on windows.
i fix that in installing wine and installing the windows version in wine!
uhh ugly nasty hack!
because in my point of view its a bug and the solution is a bugfix and this "support"
no its impressive!