NVIDIA PR Responds To Torvalds' Harsh Words

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Originally Posted by V!NCENT

I think there are two camps here (open and blob) which use the same language but a different dictionary. Let me explain:
Open Good: works stable, secure, gives enough features to be perfectly usable "It just works", good integration with Linux kernel mechanisms. Perfect for production usage on the desktop. High speed desktop effects. Everything might not work in the driver, but is useable nontheless because for example video can run perfectly, without tearing, in software. There are no fancy gimmicks and uber framerates, but that's less irritating than the shortcommings of the blob (like slower boot, no KMS, less security, upgrade limiting in time, lifespan, etc.)

Blob Good: gigantic full spectrum latest standards and protocol support, massive optimal compute power, full video acceleration, shiny graphics, gimmick support (3D bullshit and "EyeFinity" 3+ screen support, etc.

So when we are discussing "superiority", first ask yourself superiority in WHAT.

What's superior for me is the open definition of Good. Blobs can be better at their stuff that I couldn't give a rats ass about, because if I supstract $99 for an Apple TV and $250 from an Xbox360, from a $400 Crysis nVidia card, I'm still left with $50 spare for actually buying games and renting movies, or modding my Xbox in the case I'm not into buying anything. And even then I don't have to upgrade the console as much as I would have to upgrade my GPU. Capiche?

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ok sure, different strokes for different folks, but Optimess has killed the "blob" as a viable means of using a Linux powered Laptop-workstation, simply thanks to Optimus only working on M$.
And that is, and will always be, "WRONG", and Nvidia has done squat about it -again, stfu<-Nvidia !
whats wrong with having Linux "3D bullshit"-cad,..., capability if you need it on your new (Linux) Laptop ???
Thats what I want.
However, as your "rats ass" pointed out, not everybody needs it. So what. It doesn't matter, Nvidia should make Optimus work for Linux as it does for WinBlowz. The power is there if you need it, 'cause we've dam well paid for the hardware ! geeezus.
If a Linux programmer, or whoever just needs VESA/Open on there laptop, well then whoop-de-doooo, thats fine too ?
But for gawd sakes Nvidia, atleast provide the ability(proper-Linux-Optimus-switching-driver) on my very expensive Nvidai-GPU-Laptop.
If not?, then again: F_CK YOU ! <- Nvidia, go drown in your tablets.

:)

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Originally Posted by johnc

They're too busy scoring big wins in the mobile sector to worry about the relatively minuscule number of open source desktop users. :)

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*cough* Red Flag China Linux distro *cough*; millions to billions of AMD low-end cards bought because nVidia wasn't open source.

you might want to take that back, for your own sake of credibility ;)

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Originally Posted by V!NCENT

*cough* Red Flag China Linux distro *cough*; millions to billions of AMD low-end cards bought because nVidia wasn't open source.

you might want to take that back, for your own sake of credibility ;)

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I'll take it back when I see a reliable source for that information, or when I see the revenue in AMD's SEC filings. :p

Though why does "Red Flag China Linux" just sound so oxymoronic?

Nvidia's big wins in the mobile sector? I can remember about two Tegra3 phones so far. Unless you count tablets as mobile, which they really aren't (can't fit in your pocket).

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Originally Posted by curaga

Nvidia's big wins in the mobile sector? I can remember about two Tegra3 phones so far. Unless you count tablets as mobile, which they really aren't (can't fit in your pocket).

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Well, yeah... I do consider tablets to be mobile devices... since they're mobile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_computing

BUT... you're right regardless because when I made that post I was thinking for some reason that they were in Sammy's newest phone. Apparently I forgot that Samsung went with their own SoC. derp!

derp dee derrrrrrr

Ohh well... we'll see how the Nexus 7 does. :)

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Originally Posted by phoronix

Phoronix: NVIDIA PR Responds To Torvalds' Harsh Words

NVIDIA's PR department has issued a statement following the harsh comments by Linus Torvalds last week where he referred to the graphics company as the single worst company they have ever dealt with, called them out on not supporting Optimus, and other issues...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTEyMjk

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Yeeep!, Nvidia's PR department is even more N"weid"ia, than n"weird"ia itself.
pffft, whatever, your a bunch of losers' N-WEIRD-IA, expecially moreso, 'cause you LOST the potemtial billions of dollars worth China contracts to your only competitor, AMD.

wow, how do your STOCKHOLDERS like your "ClosedSource" attitude now N"weird"IA ???!!!
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Let's bitch about:
-nobody can screw the Linux kernel devs who work on GPU's;
-you can't fix stupidity, so who cares about Linux' image;
-nVidia has buyers, which are OK with the blob;
-If they experience a problem, blob or free, it is what they experience.

Now either that or let's go back to why we think that nVidia sucks, because it's funny, regardless of logical correctness :D

Fuck you Nvidia!

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i do love to read this topic.... i think that now is the time to go into intel GPU then buying discreet GPUs. yes intel GPU could be seen as a limited GPU compared to nvidia/ati GPU. yet it works fine to what i have on my linux box. Valve's move to linux environment is good and has good effect in the open source world, kernel fixes, intel drivers improvements, games soon to be released.

I like to think of intel GPU the equivalent of a console GPU hardware, you are stuck with it for a couple of years so i do really hope that games will be optimized for it, rather than trying to play high end game with a drivers that update comes as rain in the dessert.