Mono Working Close With Microsoft, Gets $12M USD

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Originally Posted by XorEaxEax

Ehh, Mono's current efforts aren't targeting the enterprise, they're creating a framework for developing mobile games/applications. Microsoft could likely not care any less.

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PC sales are declining, in the tens of millions. Smartphone sales are still skyrocketing, in the hundreds of millions (and into the billions very soon). There's a reason Microsoft are sinking so much money into trying to be relevant on mobile.

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Unity uses Mono to support scripting, which includes UnityScript, Boo or C#, Unity itself (runtime) is not written in C#, it's native and IIRC it's written in C++. How is that 'based on Mono'? By the way, do you know if the Mono devs get even a penny out of Unity's use of it as a scripting engine?

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It's not a lot of use without any scripting support. And no, I'm not privy to the details of any financial arrangements between Unity Technologies and Xamarin

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By it becoming the dominant development platform on mobile.

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Anything less than majority is irrelevant?

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Originally Posted by kraftman

What are they working on? Mobile market, perhaps? I only care about Linux desktop.

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And whilst that's all I care about, it's not what these investors care about - and not what this $12M investment is for.

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Originally Posted by directhex

PC sales are declining, in the tens of millions. Smartphone sales are still skyrocketing, in the hundreds of millions (and into the billions very soon). There's a reason Microsoft are sinking so much money into trying to be relevant on mobile.

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Thanks for confirming mono is just MS and MS sponsored products. This is the reason why it has to die.

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Originally Posted by directhex

And whilst that's all I care about, it's not what these investors care about - and not what this $12M investment is for.

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I meant if they care about mono on Linux they should hire developers to make Linux applications. If they don't care about it they should stop their stupid marketing propaganda.

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Originally Posted by kraftman

Thanks for confirming mono is just MS and MS sponsored products. This is the reason why it has to die.

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Er, what?

Are you stupid?

Ever heard of Windows Phone 7?

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Originally Posted by kraftman

I meant if they care about mono on Linux they should hire developers to make Linux applications. If they don't care about it they should stop their stupid marketing propaganda.

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They're not marketing Mono on Linux. They're marketing Mono for Android and MonoTouch.

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Originally Posted by directhex

They're not marketing Mono on Linux. They're marketing Mono for Android

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I see a contradiction here. Android is the most successful Linux out there. You should have written "They're not marketing Mono on desktop or server Linux".

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Originally Posted by directhex

I can't write for both iOS and Android in Qt

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Actually, you can write for Android in Qt (although it is not complete yet, there are a number of KDE and Qt applications with android ports), and with Qt 5 android support will be increased considerably. An iOS port of Qt is also in the works by the community, although I don't know the current status.

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Originally Posted by TheBlackCat

Actually, you can write for Android in Qt (although it is not complete yet, there are a number of KDE and Qt applications with android ports), and with Qt 5 android support will be increased considerably. An iOS port of Qt is also in the works by the community, although I don't know the current status.

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So you're correcting me by saying... I can't write for both iOS and Android in Qt?

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Originally Posted by directhex

PC sales are declining, in the tens of millions. Smartphone sales are still skyrocketing, in the hundreds of millions (and into the billions very soon). There's a reason Microsoft are sinking so much money into trying to be relevant on mobile.

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Microsoft don't care if you write applications in C#/NET or in C++, as long as you do it on Windows desktops/laptops and Windows phones (and soon Surface). C#/NET is Microsoft's answer to Java in the enterprise, here we are talking consumer mobile. Meanwhile Visual Studio 2012 is branded with the 'going native' slogan with a major push in improving their C++ solution. WP8 will support native applications written in C++, which will run on top of the native WinRT runtime. Not even on current Windows mobile platforms are you relegated to C#/NET.

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Originally Posted by directhex

It's not a lot of use without any scripting support.

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It's even less useable without the Unity runtime.

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Originally Posted by directhex

Anything less than majority is irrelevant?

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If you are to earn the epitet: 'the platform that matters on mobile', yes.