Actually NVIDIA helps development more than hindering it. NVIDIA "blob" helps nouveau significantly. They can see how it works to use it on their driver for example, using the right disassembling tools, etc. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by asdx
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Actually NVIDIA helps development more than hindering it. NVIDIA "blob" helps nouveau significantly. They can see how it works to use it on their driver for example, using the right disassembling tools, etc. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by asdx
I agree, and I'm sure they could still figure out things even without the blob. The nouveau developers are very smart people. But hey, if the blob helps them to RE I'm not against that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rigaldo
What I'm trying to say is that it would be nicer if Nvidia actually helped the community by working with Mesa and improving nouveau by providing man power and specifications. I know the Nvidia engineers are also very capable and skilled, and they could provide huge support to Nouveau, Mesa, etc, instead of wasting their time with a blob, that clearly goes against the community and Linux.
What they are doing now is unfair in my opinion, they ask about DMA-BUF, but they give nothing in return, they give a closed source blob which provides little value for Free Software and Linux development.
Sure, the blob is OK if people want to play games, but I'm more concerned about Linux and the development of FOSS itself.
Oh for the love of...
asdx, do you remember posting this?
http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...417#post291417
as well as this?Quote:
Anyway, sorry, from my part it won't happen again.
http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...457#post291457
How the fuck do you expect to have any respect when you can't even control yourself over a fucking GRAPHICS VENDOR?Quote:
Sure I agree, and no problem, it won't happen again (I know I've said this more than once, sorry), but this time it won't happen again. I'm truly sorry.
Out of all the things in the world you wish death upon, it's people who don't have a problem with NVIDIA? And you can't seem to stick to being sensible after "apologising" so many times?
You should be ashamed at your lack of social skills. Improve them quickly. Life is not worth raising your blood pressure over such things that will be an insignificant drop in the ocean of problems once you die.
I logged in to see why asdx wasn't on my ignore list and it turns out he was.
These forums really need a code of conduct - the language used here is despicable and wrong. It's unbelievable that people like this exist in the Linux community - very uncivilized.
Sure because most people here are very civilized.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vadi
Quit being an hypocrite.
Come on folks, why all the bickering today? Seems like someone got pissed on pretty hard. At least nVidia has been fixing bugs found in their driver much quicker than say AMD has been with their fglrx driver, so lets not bash them too hard. While nouveau has been coming along its still quite rough, but it is quite usable for most cards
asdx, Linus Torvalds didn't send his F Bomb towards the binary driver. He sent it for the lack of co-operation with the kernel devs.
Anyway, we will have to settle with nvidia blobs for a while since they will be the only ones capable of properly running source engine games.
Also, asdx, you might want to review how you discuss things on the internet. Being rude and righteous rarely leads anywhere, unless you are almost always right and famous like Linus Torvalds...
If I remember correctly asdx apologised regarding his abrupt and derailing manner in the recent nvidia 310 beta thread. Clearly he doesn't hold up to his promises just like ..cough.. Nvidia (as he states). So who is the hypocrite now.
You're an idiot. Thanks to nvidia we have awesome graphics drivers for Linux, so shut up talking about stuff you don't know anything about. I registered just to tell you that.Quote:
Originally Posted by asdx
On topic, are these bugs fixes included in 310.x? Anybody know how these branches will relate further on? Just thinking which will be the best for my media centre.
Just use 310 for newer cards and 304 for GeForce 6/7. I expect however updated for kernel 3.7.