It's Time To Test Out GNOME 3.6

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Originally Posted by jumperdono

I want a friggin .deb based distribution with Gnomehttp://www.pqnw.info/a82.jpg

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Why did you just in this topic then?

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Originally Posted by BO$$

Yeah it's better. Not being able to switch between applications in one click in a taskbar. Real fucking progress. Now you have to go to a corner and then recognize your application from the list and click again. Fuck gnome shell.

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Or you could just hit alt-tab...

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Originally Posted by AdamW

Or you could just hit alt-tab...

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That's what i do but that's not an excuse for a clear regression for mouse users.
Android has an interesting flowchart which is supposed to help developers make good UI/UX decisions.

developer.android.com/design/media/settings_flowchart.png

Especially consider 3-yes, fixed behaviors causing harm to the "minority".
So, design for the 80%, but don't alienate the rest.
UI is really hard.

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Originally Posted by liam

That's what i do but that's not an excuse for a clear regression for mouse users.
Android has an interesting flowchart which is supposed to help developers make good UI/UX decisions.

developer.android.com/design/media/settings_flowchart.png

Especially consider 3-yes, fixed behaviors causing harm to the "minority".
So, design for the 80%, but don't alienate the rest.
UI is really hard.

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As I understand it, the GNOME team's approach is that you can make an interface that's efficient, or one that's discoverable, but it's very difficult to do both. So their basic concept is that they kind of have two interfaces: the touch/mouse workflow is discoverable but not efficient, and the keyboard workflow is efficient but not discoverable. You can pick either (or, of course, combine elements of the two). As you say, UI is really hard, and much easier to criticize than it is to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8

It's 1984 all over again... walled gardens ... w a l l e d g a r d e n s............

1 being 1 resolve 1 click .... we shall B A I L!

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Originally Posted by liam

That's what i do but that's not an excuse for a clear regression for mouse users.

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Is it really? I find that sweeping the mouse up the left corner and then clicking a big window is at least as fast as trying to pinpoint a tiny area in the bottom of the screen. Sure, there is an extra movement (not click), but now there is no need for precision. "Point and click" has become "Flick and click", and feels totally natural for me.

So much in fact, that I get annoyed in Windows 7 where the aforementioned technique does not work ;)

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Originally Posted by benmoran

Well, there is the official Ubuntu Gnome spin:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10

It's a pretty raw Gnome experience, so it doesn't feel like an Ubuntu "experience" at install. For example, there is no Software Center, Firefox, or Ubuntu One installed by default. Instead you get Epiphany, Packagekit Gnome, etc. installed by default. If you want the standard Ubuntu application set, they're in the repos of course.

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oh...thanks :)

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Originally Posted by liam

That's what i do but that's not an excuse for a clear regression for mouse users.
Android has an interesting flowchart which is supposed to help developers make good UI/UX decisions.

developer.android.com/design/media/settings_flowchart.png

Especially consider 3-yes, fixed behaviors causing harm to the "minority".
So, design for the 80%, but don't alienate the rest.
UI is really hard.

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I fail to see how the flowchart in your link has anything to do with alt-tabbing. Your link is about settings. Your complain about application changing is about failing to see that the way it was done before was wrong in the first place.