Linux Foundation Struggles With Microsoft UEFI Signing

Legal action is needed.

Microsoft up to its old tricks again.... This is why I fucking hate them. They are evil and they enjoy fucking others up. Like, just for pleasure, not always for money. I wonder what the engineers think of the management there.

Cannot be easier:
1. have a MS live account
2. have a tool to handle MS Cabinet files and wrap your bootloader binary int it
3. have a tool to sign MS Cabinet files
4. have a MS OS that can run Silverlight to upload the signed binary

Four steps and four times the work MS in it :)

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Originally Posted by DeiF

Legal action is needed.

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This. Requiring Silverlight for the signing process is absolutely unacceptable. They must provide an alternative way of doing it.

personally I see this as nothing to worry about. Considering how poorly Windows 8 is doing and the fact that implementing this UEFI seems to be a pain in the ass for hardware vendors, i don't think this will last. I'm sure most hardware manufacturers will just say "screw it, this isn't worth the effort and customer complaints".

I'm sure that most people who buy a system with Windows 8 on it and intend to replace it with another OS will not be putting linux on it but probably android.

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Originally Posted by matyas

And so it begins... UEFI is unleashed upon the world and the Linux Foundations is having issues with proprietary technologies from Microsoft. The fact the we need a "Microsoft UEFI Signing" process is really sad. One can only guess how much grief this will generate down the road. I'm pessimistic about this one...

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Don't bundle UEFI with secure boot like that. They are not the same thing and neither is bad. And while UEFI can be cancerous -depending on the morons that implemented it (read intel)- secure boot implementation that requires something from a "competing company" is equally stupid.

I read
UEFI
"Secure" Boot
Microsoft
Symantec
Silverlight
.net
cabinet file
hurdles with the 7 stage process
in one article and suddenly I feel the urge to KILL people!

So we're waiting for MS to sign our bootloader so maybe we can boot from the next generation of mainboards? lol.

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Originally Posted by schmidtbag

personally I see this as nothing to worry about. Considering how poorly Windows 8 is doing and the fact that implementing this UEFI seems to be a pain in the ass for hardware vendors, i don't think this will last. I'm sure most hardware manufacturers will just say "screw it, this isn't worth the effort and customer complaints".

I'm sure that most people who buy a system with Windows 8 on it and intend to replace it with another OS will not be putting linux on it but probably android.

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Most people will just use it (even if it is a total mess, i think this too), there is very much to worry about.

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Originally Posted by bug77

Same here. I mean, Silverlight is pretty much discontinued, why require it to update the UEFI?

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it'S typical microsoft. stupid short sighted descisions and designs. and all done to make the life of all toher more difficult.

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Originally Posted by BO$$

Microsoft up to its old tricks again.... This is why I fucking hate them. They are evil and they enjoy fucking others up. Like, just for pleasure, not always for money. I wonder what the engineers think of the management there.

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wow. i finally have something i totally agree with you!

this makes me happy (no irony!).