Systemd 197 Brings "Quite Some Cool New Stuff"

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Originally Posted by funkSTAR

Sure they will merge stuff with CLA.

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Qt is licensed under QPL, GPL and LGPL. They are all FSF and OSI approved licenses. You can choose a license at your discretion.

You don't need to sign anything to use, modify or merge QPL, GPL or LGPL code.

I know that you're just trolling, but it's still important to correct this sort of FUD because younger users might not know this and might believe your rabid nonsense.

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Originally Posted by pingufunkybeat

I know that you're just trolling, but it's still important to correct this sort of FUD because younger users might not know this and might believe your rabid nonsense.

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Lets make a few things clear. Systemd does not endorse CA or CLA.
https://plus.google.com/115547683951...ts/X3fUhyJREKq

Qt is a piece of shit walled garden protecting its right to close up the code by the means of CLA. Why should anyone against CA or CLA merge up Qt?

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Originally Posted by funkSTAR

Lets make a few things clear. Systemd does not endorse CA or CLA.

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CLA is irrelevant if the code is under the LGPL and GPL. It is only relevant if you want your code to be a part of the official Qt distribution, which is not relevant here.

You are free to fork the LGPL version to your heart's content. The only difference is that it won't kill the Qt project like it almost killed udev. So it is the exact opposite of walled garden, because you could continue to use Qt without systemd. Unlike udev.

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Originally Posted by 89c51

Bullshit. What solves a problem in a better way is always the best solution. The "philosophy" arguments are religion level stupid.

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This is what Unix philosophy says.

Qt is licensed under QPL, GPL and LGPL, it can't be a walled garden and anyone can use Qt, study it, modify it, adapt it, distribute it, etc., even if other people don't do the same.

It isn't a "shit" :) . Qt has quality. For example, it's used in:
- Autodesk Maya [8][9]
- Skype
- VLC media player [10]
- VirtualBox
- Mathematica [11]
- the European Space Agency [12]
- DreamWorks [13][14]
- HP [15]
- The Foundry's Nuke [16]
- Lucasfilm [17]
- Panasonic [18]
- Philips [19]
- Samsung [20]
- Siemens [21]
- Volvo [22]
- Walt Disney Animation Studios[23]
- RIM (Research In Motion) [24]
- Google Earth, Perforce Client, Qt Creator, Adobe Elements, Swipe Nokia N9 UI, etc.

[8] http://web.archive.org/web/201107231...-use/autodesk/
[9] http://web.archive.org/web/201107231...visual-effects
[10] http://qt.digia.com/Qt-in-Action/VLC-media-player/
[11] http://qt.digia.com/Qt-in-Action/Mat...fram-Research/
[12] http://web.archive.org/web/201107231...e/story/custom er/esa-european-space-agency
[13] http://qt-project.org/videos/watch/b...t_make_the_mov
[14] http://qt-project.org/videos/watch/u..._lighting_tool
[15] http://qt-project.org/videos/watch/d...oducts_with_qt
[16] http://qt.digia.com/Qt-in-Action/The-Foundry/
[17] http://web.archive.org/web/201107231...visual-effects
http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2011/1...eveloper-days/
http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...User-Interface
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Lucasf.....-a0169880784
[18] http://web.archive.org/web/201107231...d-video-system
[19] http://web.archive.org/web/201107231...communications
[20] http://web.archive.org/web/201107231...-in-home-media
[21] http://web.archive.org/web/201107141...stomer/siemens
[22] http://web.archive.org/web/201107141...bility-systems
[23] http://web.archive.org/web/201107141...ture-animation
[24] http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2011/1...oper-days-s-f/

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Originally Posted by LightBit

This is what Unix philosophy says.

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This reminds me a lot about people quoting the bible to support their arguments...

Systemd exposes processes and all their relationships/peculiarities as files in the filesystem,
actually promoting the Unix mantra of "everything is a file".

"timofonic" reminds me a lot about people in Spain :-)

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Originally Posted by pingufunkybeat

CLA is irrelevant if the code is under the LGPL and GPL.

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The freedom to avoid CA is explicitly mentioned as a FEATURE of systemd! http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html
http://www.dumpyourphoto.com/files7/...OK7nMbFcgX.png
Systemd is not the right place for CA/CLA, several companies has a policy of reluctance towards signing such deals(RH included) and Debian recognizes CA/CLA as harm done to developers. So now now PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP about relevancy.

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Originally Posted by Nth_man

Qt is licensed under QPL, GPL and LGPL, it can't be a walled garden and anyone can use Qt, study it, modify it, adapt it, distribute it, etc.

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Off course it is a walled garden! It adds unnecessary burdens to free software developers and excludes some as well. Oh yeah and it is just downright RUDE to demand free software hackers to give avay rights. Whats next?