Ventilate Fedora Anaconda by moving software selection to firstboot step
Currently we have anaconda for Fedora 18 designed as a hub with spokes. One of the spokes is the software selection task.
are a few reasons why it may be desireable to move it from anaconda to First boot.
a) Simplify anaconda functionality
b) Reduce the livecd size so that it is under 700megs
c) For smaller systems (netbooks, or systems with 1 gig of memory), allow the firstboot to specify a larger set of installable software. (Eliminate the mutually exclusive selection imposed by Fedora 18).
d) One gig systems do not have sufficient memory to install every option within the Gnome choice. Ditto for some of the other DEs.
e) If software installation is moved to firstboot, Fedora is already booted, and firstboot software installation (yum or whatever) can take advantage of the
/home/user folders increased disk space availability.
The above are just my thoughts after having to do the fedora installation twice because of d)
I am not a Fedora internals person and I really do not know if my idea is practical. It may not be if the livecd option is one reason for not considering this idea, there may be others.
Dual core netbooks have 512gig hard drives with 1 gig memory
Originally Posted by deanjo
When you quote old technology, realize that while two of my three systems are 4 gigs or larger, I also have netbooks that were manufactured by Intel in 2011. That is not old equipement that is past their prime. There are many netbooks made for Asia, Africa, Latin America, and elsewhere that are with 160 to 256gig drives but with 1 gig total memory. These netbooks were designed to be rugged and for students.
Fedora18 runs for about 4.5 hours non-stop on them. I have two of them because I write software. I write for French and Spanish users.
Currently my software is designed for 32bit and 64 bit hardware. (Different compilers and libraries). When you realize that on a two user system, you may have one user who wants KDE and the other Gnome, then you really want to install both in one go. To keep the installation time reasonable, Fedora 18 limits you to installing one and only one DE.
Please also note. Ubuntu is already on tablets. Most tablets have 1 gig memory and up to 32gigs flash. What I propose is to ventilate anaconda so it is easier to support and to allow a livecd image to fit on a 1 gig flash drive.
Have you ever had to restart an installation because something was configured wrong, and you have to wait for firstboot? If you have, then you may find merit in my asking if it is worth researching to evaluate the pros and the cons of this change. The pros and cons include development and support costs, program sizes, modularity, development and quality control activities, security and anything else I forgot to mention, if installing from dvd image on flash, instead of taking 40 minutes, the system can be at firstboot in 10, and that means, the installation was successful. We move about 35 minutes of elapsed execution from anaconda and add it to firstboot. If from first boot, only the latest software gets installed. now, my experience is that the snapshot prepared for the DVD is three months behind in time from the actual go live date. We do the installation, we do the first boot, and we run yum to download 300megs of current updates. By relocating the software installation to immediately follow firstboot, a lot of elapsed time is to be saved.
We must not put sticks in the wheels (batons dans les roules). If the Fedora architects think there is merit, they will build a comparison matrix of pros and cons, and draw a quantitive conclusion.