It's definitely the best desktop for Linux.Quote:
Originally Posted by moilami
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It's definitely the best desktop for Linux.Quote:
Originally Posted by moilami
Thanks, me the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by moilami
It's one of the worst, sadly. I thought Vincent will criticize its stupid direction, but while he's justifying unjustifiable it's just a waste of time. Vincent and gnome fanboys should read about iphone syndrome:Quote:
I am very very happy with Gnome 3. It is the best desktop.
Edit: I just realized after reading second time your post that he was pro Gnome 3 lol.
http://www.strandreports.com/sw4031.asp
I watched the full video, hoping to find some information on what they are planning to improve the way they are working. Just watch the answer to the last question at the end of the video (51:53), it sums up the whole presentation. Basically, he is saying : "Yes we made mistakes, we are bad at communication and we can't analyse feedback in a way that is useful to developpers, but we don't know how to solve these issues so we won't do anything"...
Comparatively, the KDE 4.0 release was a complete disaster. You can critisize the KDE community for a lot of things, but I think they learned a lot from that, and they won't do the same mistakes with the next big release. They are first working on KDE Framework 5, improving things under the hood, and then they will make small gradual changes to the front-end. I think they won't ever again release a major version tagges x.0 targetted to developpers and not to users. They collaborate a lot with other projects. When someone else in the free software community is doing something that meets their goals better than they would do themselves, they use it, no matter what technology is used (I'm thinking about the Maliit virtual keyboard for example). When they develop a project that could be used for more than Plasma Workspaces, they make everything to ease its adoption (i.e. owncloud). I think the Gnome community could learn a lot from their experience, but it looks like they are not heading this way unfortunately...
no, that is the mistake YOU are doing. there can't be a best desktop for everyone. and we all know people are taking changes very slow, especially changes that break with so many things.Quote:
Originally Posted by pingufunkybeat
against your million users who do not like gnome shell, there are also millions that like it.
it may play out or not and mostly takes a lot of time until we really know if it played out or not.
gnome is the ONLY one trying to change the currently desktop enviroment setup which ALL others DE are using and which actualy SUCKS! if you do not like it go to another DE but let at least one, at least ONE try to do something better. the try may fail. we will see it in time.
i waited for more than 15 years to get rid of the common DE-scheme. gnome shell is the first step into a direction that for me seems to be promising. it's by far neither perfect, nor does it break enough with the common DE-scheme as i would wish. but it is finally a DE trying something new. and there are plantly of alternatives for those who don't want it.
the direction gnome took with gnome shell is the reason that for the first time ever i started to like gnome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pawlerson
i don't care about the syndroms you have.
What is it exactly that gnome 3 improves over gnome 2 productivity-wise? All of you saying that gnome 3 is better should justify it just like the gnome 3 haters should justify their decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by a user
About the video: Fuck that guy. Who the fuck is he to tell me that I cannot adapt or other subtle insults he throws at the anti gnome 3 people? Hear me Vincent Untz? FUCK YOU! You and other losers are the reason the linux desktop is now fucked. Gnome 2 was good enough. Improve that don't come up with 'revolutionary' shit. How do you think we will attract windows users? By giving them something completely different from windows? FUCK YOU YOU IDIOT!
An executive summary should be unbiased and cover the whole topic. Seems you're just searching for comfirmation about your own bias.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanL
Suggest actually watching the video and discuss what is said. At the moment it seems like hating for the sake of hating.
Hey dude, I invited you to go to FOSDEM (where this video was taken) loads and loads of times. It seems you're only able to shout on the internet because you never replied.Quote:
Originally Posted by BO$$
If you don't want to watch the video, best not to tell Vincent what he should've done… you just said you have no idea because you stopped watching.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pawlerson
Who do you think started freedesktop.org? Who has shared conferences and hackfests with KDE and other distributions?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thaodan