but that doesn't make it better what he said a top of this (my quote above). beside of that, already the first statement i saw from that dev was already very aggressivly negative while trying to pretend neutrality, even before canonicle posted that announcement.
in fact, we do not know what happens there in the backstage. and i do not want to judge who started what. but it pisses me off reading such idiotic statements like the ones above and i saw many of that style here in the forums.
if canonical wants to start their own display server project then they have al right to do it and they do not own anybody to first ask for permission or get in contact with any other startup project with the same aim.
why i haven't read any such statements when wayland started? sure even there were a lot of complaints like "why we need that? fragmentation bla bla". and now the same people seem to defend wayland >.>
it feels here like a big kindagarden. it really makes me sad seeing how the linux community changed. it sounds as if former window users are hopping on linux now and are whining about every thing what made linux different in the past.
Uhm.., you guys DO realize that Larabel is just trolling you, right?!
Mir hasn't been doing a very good job at showing where Wayland is broken, but I think a key point that people are missing is that Mir might be able to work with proprietary Android blob drivers which would be critical to getting Mir to run on other smartphones other than the Ubuntu phone. Providing people the option to run Mir on their other devices, even if the manufacturer doesn't support it, sounds pretty interesting to me.
Does Wayland ever plan to get proprietary Android binary blob drivers working with their display servers? Especially considering that Android's linux kernel has a patchset that still hasn't been merged into mainline linux... I doubt it. Mir, it appears, has that as a critical goal that's going to be extremely important. Whether or not Canonical can pull it off is anybody's guess.
I'll bet you anything that Canonical is planning on running Google's Android patchset for the linux kernel and on top of that is going to be running Android device drivers in Mir to bring Ubuntu to all smartphones that can run Android today.
The only toolkits right now that support Wayland properly, just FYI, are Enlightenment and Qt5. GTK3 is still being sorted out if I remember correctly (could be wrong), and KDE will gain Wayland support when it rebases off of Qt5 for Frameworks 5
I thing that Linux users are not whining. They just want the same things from the beginning of Linux time:
1) GPL and open standards. They don't want Mir nor Wayland, nor Flash nor Net(Mono), nor Catalyst nor Nvidia_blob. They want a GPL_LLVM(GCC5 or 6), HTML5, VP9, and others.
2) Compatibility with closed things. They don't prefer a new Kernel version but a new Wine version. They need the latest Lightspark. They prefer Unified_Graphics_Drivers that understand many Compilers(like GLSL and HLSL at the same time) and they don't need translations(glsl=disabled), plus free HLSL_compilers/state_trackers. They need Qemu to have 70+% translation efficiency, so they don't have to relay on closed Instruction_Sets. They need last generation Console_Emulators and Console destruction. And many more.
I really think that companies like Red_Hat that they gain a billion or more per year, should be interested to make Linux and Libre_standards, destroy once and for ever anything else for good. They must spare like a hundred or two or more programmers to perfect Linux things.