And their 4600 GPU is still in the neighborhood of being competitive with the extreme low end parts they are competing with. No gamer would ever want them, but someone who plays a bit of the Sims occasionally would be OK. We'll see where they go from here, but for the last 5 years they've gone from embarassing, to just terrible, to very bad, to bad, to nearly not bad. Hopefully that trajectory continues, as I'd like to see 3 competitors instead of just 2.
It just makes it eaisier for everyone if the mobo is overspec and adds almost nothing to the cost. Replacing the CPU with a different model doesn't require a reinstall of the OS, but replacing the mobo with a different model can.
And not directed at you:
I like that Intel is trying to improve their graphics, but the top end Iris stuff seems to only be made for one purpose, which is winning benchmarks. If the price was magically the same as the Intel i3s, which is what the AMD APUs are really competing against, they Intel would never be able to build these in quantity. They couldn't get enough of the RAM.
To me, it's the same thing as when car manufacturers send their cars to reviewers, complete with the entire option package installed (that usually costs almost as much as the car itself). It looks good in reviews, but it's not the same thing as most people will drive off of the lot.
All said, the eDRAM is just an expensive brute force method to make a sub par iGPU actually stand a chance by giving it it's own memory bandwidth, give the 8670D it's own GDDR5 and watch it throughly kick the Iris Pro 5200 up and down the block.
In any case wait till Kaveri gets released if you are looking to get an iGPU system.
Just gonna reply to both of you at once. I mis-read what Luke said originally, Originally I thought he said AMD's "mainstream" GPU's, which would be their dedicated cards, not Intel's "mainstream gpu's." Sorry for the confusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kivada;