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Previous attempts to replace X (Berlin/Fresco, the Y Window System) were critically lacking backward compatibility with X, which Wayland has (actually running a full instance of X.org rootless, when...

The protocol has versioning stuff so that they can make changes without breaking backward compatibility. A lot of thought seems to have gone into it.

Calm down with all the speculation.

I believe the only thing not using xkbcommon for wayland support is kmscon, and now mir. I believe everything else ("GTK+, Qt, Clutter...") is using it (only) for wayland support. Which I think it...

"Gecko's GTK/GDK X11 port uses some features of the GDK X11 backend, so porting to GTK3 is only part of work required for a GTK/Wayland port." -...

Yes, xwayland mostly refers to modifications to x.org. I can't be sure what uid313 was referring to, but 1) there is a segfault bug that makes xwayland basically not usable, known since September (...

Using the "Report Post" links helps a lot. "!" in a triangle at the bottom left corner of every post.

blackiwid, please stop arguing about your use of the word "psychopath". It was never productive.

ворот93, please don't call anybody "sociopathic children" without some solid evidence of their...

Where did you hear that?

Thanks for confirming my suspicion, added e8hffff to my ignore list.

I agree both that phoronix seems to be significantly lacking in moderation, and that dedicated moderators can be problematic. I think the voting systems used by reddit and slashdot seem to work...

I hate April Fools'. It's difficult enough to determine what's true vs. what's supposed to be ironic / sarcastic / etc. without this.

I suspect this Northfield article is true though.

One side is trying. The other side....

--- Log opened Fri Mar 29 16:07:42 2013
16:07 <soreau> Hm, that didn't turn out very well for you, no did it? ;)
16:07 <soreau> now* :-)
16:08 <Darxus>...

I never saw you reply to this:


- http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?79171-Wayland-Weston-Gets-Forked-As-quot-GH-Next-quot&p=322132#post322132

No, that's not it at all. Although that does seem to be what Scott wants you to think. Or maybe he's genuinely that confused. The wayland developers are all entirely happy with what Scott wants to...

No, it's not false. You wrote a four page article explaining why you forked weston instead of just creating a new shell plugin, when that was not the issue. The issue was why you forked wayland...

Yes.



Agreed. Do you feel anybody who was involved, other than soreau, has not been courteous and respectful? He has admitted being discourteous and disrespectful to everyone in the project...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB5q1maCV5I

Sound similar to anybody?

That is substantially misleading. This was our last conversation on the subject:

--- Day changed Wed Mar 20 2013
18:26 < Darxus> soreau: As always, if you'll just tell me exactly what you want...

Yes. The plan was for desktop environments like KDE, Gnome Shell, Compiz, etc., to add wayland protocol support. So you could just switch from using X to using Wayland without any change in your...

I would say that the point of wayland is that X is so crufty that it's miserable to maintain or develop. So wayland is a fresh start that's less miserable for the developers (same people working on...