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Thread: AMD/ATI + Linux + WINE = FAIL... all around.

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    Default AMD/ATI + Linux + WINE = FAIL... all around.

    Hey all

    I have here two machines...

    Machine A)
    AMD Athlon XP 2500+ CPU
    Nvidia 6800GT GPU
    1GB DDR 400 RAM
    Ubuntu 8.04-32bit OS

    Machine B)
    Intel Q6600 CPU
    ATI/AMD 3650 GPU
    2GB DDR2 800 RAM
    Ubuntu 8.04-64bit OS


    Machine A plays Civilization IV and Oblivion just fine, played for an hour last night with no issues.

    Machine B gets to the part where it initializes the engine of the game and after a brief glimpse of the intro video (if I'm lucky) it crashes to the desktop.


    The 6800GT from Machine A was installed in Machine B before I upgraded from an E6300 with an AsRock board to the Q6600 on a Gigabyte board. The AsRock board had support for both PCI-e and AGP, this Gigabyte board of course does not, so there's no swapping the GPU's back where they were. (mobo is now at work, CPU is now in server).


    Anyway, point here is that with ATI using the latest drivers (8.5) and the very latest version of Ubuntu, and the very latest version of Wine (1.0-RC2), all DX games fail to load. Even more troublesome, they all fail in the same manner, about 200 lines of err code output to the terminal.

    I have tried regressing the Wine version back to 0.9.54, and that works *better* as in some very simple (FR-08) games will load, but they still lack any graphics other than a blank screen.



    For the record, yes, the ATI driver is installed correctly. glxinfo|grep direct yeilds "Direct Rendering: Yes" or whatever, and fglrxinfo shows that I do have the ATI driver installed, with the proper version and release date.

    Furthermore, all native Linux 3D accelerated apps play flawlessly, getting well over 100FPS in Nexuiz and the like.


    And what's more, I'm not alone. I've been searching the web for over a month now trying to find some sort of solution short of replacing the GPU with an NVidia model, and what I've discovered is that there are many others in my situation.

    The frustrating part is that the Community has failed to give an answer. If you look at the forum posts where people post nearly the same exact lines of error code, there is no response. The posts go un-answered on even large forums like ubuntuforums.org for weeks.

    Even more frustrating is the "Blame Game". If you talk to Wine Dev's they all say it's the ATI driver. If you talk to most anyone other than the WINE dev's they say it's WINE's fault.

    No one has come up with anything close to an explanation of where the fault lies, or when something will be done about it.

    It's enough to really tick some one off. I have litterally spent over 8 hours of my time researching this issue and trying to get it to work myself. Every ATI driver release I get my hopes up again but for nothing.



    I would just like some kind of response. I'm sick and tired of people saying things like "It's those ATI drivers" or my personal pet Peeve "you should get Windows".


    I'm not a noob at this either. I have taken a full semester course in Unix using Linux, as well as using Linux full-time at home on Four PC's with multiple distro's for over 2 years.


    I'd just like some assurance that something will be done about this.

    Thanks, Dan.

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    It's the ATI drivers

    Seriously, can you pls either post the error messages or a link to where the error is already being discussed ? I don't know if we are doing any testing with Wine right now; pretty sure we would not have tested with the just-released version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bridgman View Post
    It's the ATI drivers

    Seriously, can you pls either post the error messages or a link to where the error is already being discussed ? I don't know if we are doing any testing with Wine right now; pretty sure we would not have tested with the just-released version.

    Thanks for the quick reply,


    Here's the output I captured by redirecting stderr to a text file:

    Code:
    fixme:d3d:IWineD3DImpl_FillGLCaps OpenGL implementation supports 16 vertex samplers and 16 total samplers
    fixme:d3d:IWineD3DImpl_FillGLCaps Expected vertex samplers + MAX_TEXTURES(=8) > combined_samplers
    fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x32ef4c,0x00000000), stub!
    fixme:d3d:test_pbo_functionality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GL_INVALID_OPERATION (0x502) from Loading the PBO test texture
     @ directx.c / 3520
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_R16F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_G16R16F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_A16B16G16R16F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_R32F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_G32R32F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_A32B32G32R32F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_R16F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_G16R16F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_A16B16G16R16F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_R32F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_G32R32F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_A32B32G32R32F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_R16F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_G16R16F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_A16B16G16R16F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_R32F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_G32R32F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_A32B32G32R32F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_R16F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_G16R16F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_A16B16G16R16F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_R32F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_G32R32F
    err:d3d:getColorBits Unsupported format: WINED3DFMT_A32B32G32R32F
    fixme:d3d9:IDirect3DDevice9Impl_CreateSurface MultisampleQuality set to -1, bstituting 0
    err:d3d:WineD3D_ChoosePixelFormat Can't find a suitable iPixelFormat
    fixme:d3d9:IDirect3DDevice9Impl_CreateSurface MultisampleQuality set to -1, bstituting 0
    fixme:d3d9:IDirect3DDevice9Impl_CreateSurface MultisampleQuality set to -1, bstituting 0
    fixme:dinput:SysMouseAImpl_Acquire Clipping cursor to (0,0)-(1280,1024)
    wine: Unhandled page fault on execute access to 0x7c0b7498 at address 0x7c0b7498 (thread 0009), starting debugger...
    Unhandled exception: page fault on execute access to 0x7c0b7498 in 32-bit code (0x7c0b7498).
    Register dump:
     CS:0023 SS:002b DS:002b ES:002b FS:0063 GS:006b
     EIP:7c0b7498 ESP:0032f070 EBP:0032f0bc EFLAGS:00010206(   - 00      - RIP1)
     EAX:0032f0a0 EBX:7dfa3c84 ECX:0013f300 EDX:7dfa4920
     ESI:00000000 EDI:7df91bc7
    Stack dump:
    0x0032f070:  7df33df9 00008775 0032f0a0 00000000
    0x0032f080:  00000002 00000000 00000001 00000001
    0x0032f090:  7df34271 7df91bc7 3f800000 7df91bc7
    0x0032f0a0:  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
    0x0032f0b0:  7dfa3c84 00000006 00000043 0032f13c
    0x0032f0c0:  7ded874c 000000d8 0016d918 0017a528
    Backtrace:
    =>1 0x7c0b7498 (0x0032f0bc)
      2 0x7ded874c ActivateContext+0x4fc() in wined3d (0x0032f13c)
      3 0x7df0d26b drawPrimitive+0x17b() in wined3d (0x0032f44c)
      4 0x7dee4fcb in wined3d (+0x24fcb) (0x0032f4bc)
      5 0x7dfbec5e in d3d9 (+0xec5e) (0x0032f4ec)
      6 0x006cbf2a in oblivion (+0x2cbf2a) (0x00000002)
      7 0x00000000 (0x00000000)
    0x7c0b7498: movl	0x7dea0c60,%eax
    Modules:
    Module	Address			Debug info	Name (95 modules)
    PE	  400000-  b59000	Export          oblivion
    PE	  b60000-  daf000	Deferred        d3dx9_27
    PE	18000000-18068000	Deferred        binkw32
    ELF	7b800000-7b92d000	Deferred        kernel32<elf>
      \-PE	7b820000-7b92d000	\               kernel32
    ELF	7bc00000-7bca4000	Deferred        ntdll<elf>
      \-PE	7bc10000-7bca4000	\               ntdll
    ELF	7bf00000-7bf03000	Deferred        <wine-loader>
    ELF	7cd5d000-7cd66000	Deferred        librt.so.1
    ELF	7cd7f000-7de21000	Deferred        fglrx_dri.so
    ELF	7de21000-7de2c000	Deferred        libgcc_s.so.1
    ELF	7de2c000-7dea6000	Export          libgl.so.1
    ELF	7dea6000-7dfa8000	Export          wined3d<elf>
      \-PE	7dec0000-7dfa8000	\               wined3d
    ELF	7dfa8000-7dfd8000	Export          d3d9<elf>
      \-PE	7dfb0000-7dfd8000	\               d3d9
    ELF	7e280000-7e294000	Deferred        midimap<elf>
      \-PE	7e290000-7e294000	\               midimap
    ELF	7e294000-7e2ba000	Deferred        msacm32<elf>
      \-PE	7e2a0000-7e2ba000	\               msacm32
    ELF	7e2ba000-7e2d1000	Deferred        msacm32<elf>
      \-PE	7e2c0000-7e2d1000	\               msacm32
    ELF	7e2d1000-7e394000	Deferred        libasound.so.2
    ELF	7e394000-7e3c9000	Deferred        winealsa<elf>
      \-PE	7e3a0000-7e3c9000	\               winealsa
    ELF	7e3c9000-7e3fc000	Deferred        uxtheme<elf>
      \-PE	7e3d0000-7e3fc000	\               uxtheme
    ELF	7e3fe000-7e407000	Deferred        libxcursor.so.1
    ELF	7e407000-7e40c000	Deferred        libxfixes.so.3
    ELF	7e40c000-7e40f000	Deferred        libxcomposite.so.1
    ELF	7e40f000-7e415000	Deferred        libxrandr.so.2
    ELF	7e415000-7e41d000	Deferred        libxrender.so.1
    ELF	7e41d000-7e420000	Deferred        libxinerama.so.1
    ELF	7e420000-7e440000	Deferred        imm32<elf>
      \-PE	7e430000-7e440000	\               imm32
    ELF	7e440000-7e445000	Deferred        libxdmcp.so.6
    ELF	7e445000-7e45d000	Deferred        libxcb.so.1
    ELF	7e45d000-7e45f000	Deferred        libxcb-xlib.so.0
    ELF	7e45f000-7e546000	Deferred        libx11.so.6
    ELF	7e546000-7e554000	Deferred        libxext.so.6
    ELF	7e554000-7e5ea000	Deferred        winex11<elf>
      \-PE	7e560000-7e5ea000	\               winex11
    ELF	7e617000-7e638000	Deferred        libexpat.so.1
    ELF	7e638000-7e662000	Deferred        libfontconfig.so.1
    ELF	7e662000-7e677000	Deferred        libz.so.1
    ELF	7e677000-7e6e7000	Deferred        libfreetype.so.6
    ELF	7e6e7000-7e713000	Deferred        ws2_32<elf>
      \-PE	7e6f0000-7e713000	\               ws2_32
    ELF	7e713000-7e72d000	Deferred        wsock32<elf>
      \-PE	7e720000-7e72d000	\               wsock32
    ELF	7e72d000-7e796000	Deferred        msvcrt<elf>
      \-PE	7e740000-7e796000	\               msvcrt
    ELF	7e796000-7e7aa000	Deferred        lz32<elf>
      \-PE	7e7a0000-7e7aa000	\               lz32
    ELF	7e7aa000-7e803000	Deferred        shlwapi<elf>
      \-PE	7e7c0000-7e803000	\               shlwapi
    ELF	7e803000-7e912000	Deferred        shell32<elf>
      \-PE	7e810000-7e912000	\               shell32
    ELF	7e912000-7e95c000	Deferred        dsound<elf>
      \-PE	7e920000-7e95c000	\               dsound
    ELF	7e95c000-7e9ee000	Deferred        winmm<elf>
      \-PE	7e970000-7e9ee000	\               winmm
    ELF	7e9ee000-7ea01000	Deferred        libresolv.so.2
    ELF	7ea01000-7ea1a000	Deferred        version<elf>
      \-PE	7ea10000-7ea1a000	\               version
    ELF	7ea1a000-7ea38000	Deferred        iphlpapi<elf>
      \-PE	7ea20000-7ea38000	\               iphlpapi
    ELF	7ea38000-7ea99000	Deferred        rpcrt4<elf>
      \-PE	7ea40000-7ea99000	\               rpcrt4
    ELF	7ea99000-7eb3d000	Deferred        ole32<elf>
      \-PE	7eab0000-7eb3d000	\               ole32
    ELF	7eb3d000-7eb74000	Deferred        dinput<elf>
      \-PE	7eb50000-7eb74000	\               dinput
    ELF	7eb74000-7eb8c000	Deferred        dinput8<elf>
      \-PE	7eb80000-7eb8c000	\               dinput8
    ELF	7eb8c000-7ebde000	Deferred        advapi32<elf>
      \-PE	7eba0000-7ebde000	\               advapi32
    ELF	7ebde000-7ec79000	Deferred        gdi32<elf>
      \-PE	7ebf0000-7ec79000	\               gdi32
    ELF	7ec79000-7edc0000	Deferred        user32<elf>
      \-PE	7ec90000-7edc0000	\               user32
    ELF	7edc0000-7ee7f000	Deferred        comctl32<elf>
      \-PE	7edd0000-7ee7f000	\               comctl32
    ELF	7ef9f000-7efaa000	Deferred        libnss_files.so.2
    ELF	7efaa000-7efc2000	Deferred        libnsl.so.1
    ELF	7efc2000-7efe7000	Deferred        libm.so.6
    ELF	7efe8000-7efed000	Deferred        libxxf86vm.so.1
    ELF	7efed000-7eff7000	Deferred        libnss_nis.so.2
    ELF	7eff7000-7f000000	Deferred        libnss_compat.so.2
    ELF	f7cb1000-f7cb4000	Deferred        libxau.so.6
    ELF	f7cb9000-f7cbd000	Deferred        libdl.so.2
    ELF	f7cbd000-f7e0c000	Deferred        libc.so.6
    ELF	f7e0c000-f7e24000	Deferred        libpthread.so.0
    ELF	f7e3e000-f7f74000	Deferred        libwine.so.1
    ELF	f7f76000-f7f95000	Deferred        ld-linux.so.2
    Threads:
    process  tid      prio (all id:s are in hex)
    00000008 (D) C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Oblivion.exe
    	0000001c   -1
    	0000001b   -1
    	0000001a   15
    	00000019    0
    	00000009    0 <==
    0000000c 
    	00000014    0
    	00000013    0
    	00000012    0
    	0000000e    0
    	0000000d    0
    0000000f 
    	00000016    0
    	00000015    0
    	00000011    0
    	00000010    0
    00000017 
    	00000018    0
    Backtrace:
    =>1 0x7c0b7498 (0x0032f0bc)
      2 0x7ded874c ActivateContext+0x4fc() in wined3d (0x0032f13c)
      3 0x7df0d26b drawPrimitive+0x17b() in wined3d (0x0032f44c)
      4 0x7dee4fcb in wined3d (+0x24fcb) (0x0032f4bc)
      5 0x7dfbec5e in d3d9 (+0xec5e) (0x0032f4ec)
      6 0x006cbf2a in oblivion (+0x2cbf2a) (0x00000002)
      7 0x00000000 (0x00000000)

    It's nearly identical on all 3D apps I've tried on WINE, including Oblivion, Civilization IV, and even FR-08 (an extremely small program that creates a music video in 3D).



    Latest update I have today is that CIV actualy plays without the fglrx driver! Yeah, I went and downloaded the RadeonHD driver, installed it, and CIV plays! Of course, there's no 3D accel, but w/e at least I can load the menu! :-P


    Dan

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    Here's another person with a similar situation and issue:

    http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?p=5874#5874


    I'll see if I can't find the other ones I found the other day...

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    The WINE team have deliberately sabotaged WINE for years.

    Alexandre Julliard even works for Codeweavers. Talk about a conflict of interest.

    There is much sabotage of Linux to the benefit of the RIAA/MPAA Microsoft and other business ventures.

    See "The Linux Kernel SABOTEURS." @

    http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9509

    for another example.
    Last edited by Jade; 05-25-2008 at 04:48 PM.

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    It seems you are completely weird...

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    Wine just doesn't play well with fglrx. We can all agree that the OpenGL implementation on fglrx is not perfect (neither is nvidia's but still) and Wine depends heavily on OpenGL for all of its DX calls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    It seems you are completely weird...
    Here is another little (local) conspiracy for you.

    This thread does not appear on the front page in the "Popular In The Forums" section like it should.

    What do you think the reason for that might be?

    Local sabotage perhaps?

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    You would think this thread would be re-attached to the front page "Popular In The Forums" section so that the mini-conspiracy won't be obvious to all.
    Last edited by Jade; 05-25-2008 at 07:08 PM.

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    wine doesent work at all with fglrx, not on the HD2xxx either.

    it seemed to work somewhat about ~2 years ago on 9700pro

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