XDS 2008: GLSL, Radeon, Graphics Testing

[phoronix]

Phoronix: XDS 2008: GLSL, Radeon, Graphics Testing

This morning Tungsten Graphics was speaking at XDS 2008 about the status of Gallium3D. However, the rest of the day is filled with a variety of other OpenGL and graphics related talks...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NjY5OA

[izual]

...power management is critical.

What exactly does that mean?

[dungeon]

R100-200: No Gallium support planned and limited development restricted to kernel mode-setting and memory management.

Will r100-200 be discarded entirely when Gallium sits in master? No more 3D with these cards?

[gentoofu]

What exactly does that mean?

The card still heats up even when idle. It angers a lot of r600/r700 owners due to this reason.

[izual]

The card still heats up even when idle. It angers a lot of r600/r700 owners due to this reason.

:E
I need a card for one of my older machines, so I thought about buying a new 4650 or 4680 and put my 2600Pro in the old machine.

I knew that powerplay was kind of broken on the 3xxx series but I was sure they would fix it on the 4xxx series :/
Bad job ati.

[Extreme Coder]

Will r100-200 be discarded entirely when Gallium sits in master? No more 3D with these cards?

I'd certainly hope not I have a PC with an R200 card that's still going strong..
What worries me is that they will not be using GEM, but a GEM-ified TTM.. I don't know much about memory management, but does this mean it won't take advantage of GEMs advantages?

[dungeon]

I assume they'll stay in Mesa and could take GEM/TTM advantages, as like many others that not fit Gallium's requirements... but who knows?

[gentoofu]

@izual
I think their first main goal was to get the cards do what users want first, like getting 2D & 3D display which is what they've done. Now it's time to do the other important stuff.

@Extreme Coder
I asked airlied this and he said that GEM is just an API. The driver does the stuff and what Intel [GEM] does isn't suitable for radeon.