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    Default ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe/Wifi-AP vs ASUS P5E3 Premium /Wifi-AP

    Hi everyone,

    I wanna build a new computer and I'm looking for a motherboard. I read the ASUS P5E3 Premium /Wifi-AP and saw that everything works "out of the box" under linux, including the integrated WIFI chipset (right? ^^).

    Unfortunaly, this motherboard is way too expensive for me, but I found a cheaper one : ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe/Wifi-AP wich is almost the same motherboard, with a P45 chipset.

    I haven't found any linux review for that motherboard, so my question is : is everything working under linux ? I run a Debian testing x64.

    Thank you in advance.

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    Default Limitied linux options with P5Q3 deluxe/wifi-ap

    I have this board with the following setup:

    E8500
    2GBx2 Mushkin DDR3 EM3-10666
    ATI 3650
    WD raptor
    Seagate 7200.11

    I've tried a number of linux flavors. So far, the only one that "just works" is opensuse 11.0 (including 64-bit). I haven't been able to get any version of ubuntu to install (hangs on install - 8.04, 8.10 beta 32 or 64bit). Search p5q3 in ubuntu forums and you'll see many others haven't had luck witn ubuntu. Also, no luck with Fedora 9 or 10 beta. Nat has gotten sidux with significant limitations:

    http://inatie.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/p5q3-deluxe/

    I am not experienced enough to figure out exactly the problem with various builds, but the Marvell chipset is mighty suspicious. Hope that helps.

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    Thank you for you answer.

    Actually, the only troubleshooting I encountered while installing Debian Lenny is that Debian installer is unable to mount the cdrom...
    So, the easiest solution was to install via USB stick. Actually, it made me learn something new .

    Everything but wifi worked "out of the box", including HD Audio, Ethernet, etc...

    Nevertheless, I still have a question : the windows wifi drivers included in the Asus CD supplied with the motherboard are for Realtek RLT8187. In your link (aswell as in several webpages on the internet) it is mentioned that the chipset is a ralink RT2870... How come?

    Here's what lsusb -v gives

    Code:
    Bus 004 Device 003: ID 0b05:1742 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. 802.11n Network Adapter
    Device Descriptor:
      bLength                18
      bDescriptorType         1
      bcdUSB               2.00
      bDeviceClass            0 (Defined at Interface level)
      bDeviceSubClass         0 
      bDeviceProtocol         0 
      bMaxPacketSize0        64
      idVendor           0x0b05 ASUSTek Computer, Inc.
      idProduct          0x1742 802.11n Network Adapter
      bcdDevice            1.01
      iManufacturer           1 
      iProduct                2 
      iSerial                 3 
      bNumConfigurations      1
      Configuration Descriptor:
        bLength                 9
        bDescriptorType         2
        wTotalLength           67
        bNumInterfaces          1
        bConfigurationValue     1
        iConfiguration          0 
        bmAttributes         0x80
          (Bus Powered)
        MaxPower              450mA
        Interface Descriptor:
          bLength                 9
          bDescriptorType         4
          bInterfaceNumber        0
          bAlternateSetting       0
          bNumEndpoints           7
          bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class
          bInterfaceSubClass    255 Vendor Specific Subclass
          bInterfaceProtocol    255 Vendor Specific Protocol
          iInterface              5 
          Endpoint Descriptor:
            bLength                 7
            bDescriptorType         5
            bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
            bmAttributes            2
              Transfer Type            Bulk
              Synch Type               None
              Usage Type               Data
            wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
            bInterval               0
          Endpoint Descriptor:
            bLength                 7
            bDescriptorType         5
            bEndpointAddress     0x01  EP 1 OUT
            bmAttributes            2
              Transfer Type            Bulk
              Synch Type               None
              Usage Type               Data
            wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
     bInterval               0
          Endpoint Descriptor:
            bLength                 7
            bDescriptorType         5
            bEndpointAddress     0x02  EP 2 OUT
            bmAttributes            2
              Transfer Type            Bulk
              Synch Type               None
              Usage Type               Data
            wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
            bInterval               0
          Endpoint Descriptor:
            bLength                 7
            bDescriptorType         5
            bEndpointAddress     0x03  EP 3 OUT
            bmAttributes            2
              Transfer Type            Bulk
              Synch Type               None
              Usage Type               Data
            wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
            bInterval               0
          Endpoint Descriptor:
            bLength                 7
            bDescriptorType         5
            bEndpointAddress     0x04  EP 4 OUT
            bmAttributes            2
              Transfer Type            Bulk
              Synch Type               None
              Usage Type               Data
            wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
            bInterval               0
          Endpoint Descriptor:
            bLength                 7
            bDescriptorType         5
            bEndpointAddress     0x05  EP 5 OUT
            bmAttributes            2
              Transfer Type            Bulk
              Synch Type               None
              Usage Type               Data
            wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
            bInterval               0
          Endpoint Descriptor:
            bLength                 7
            bDescriptorType         5
            bEndpointAddress     0x06  EP 6 OUT
            bmAttributes            2
              Transfer Type            Bulk
              Synch Type               None
              Usage Type               Data
            wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
            bInterval               0
    How can I get the information from the idProduct number?
    Last edited by Nevo; 10-10-2008 at 07:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevo View Post
    Hi everyone,

    I wanna build a new computer and I'm looking for a motherboard. I read the ASUS P5E3 Premium /Wifi-AP and saw that everything works "out of the box" under linux, including the integrated WIFI chipset (right? ^^).

    Unfortunaly, this motherboard is way too expensive for me, but I found a cheaper one : ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe/Wifi-AP wich is almost the same motherboard, with a P45 chipset.

    I haven't found any linux review for that motherboard, so my question is : is everything working under linux ? I run a Debian testing x64.

    Thank you in advance.
    I think it depends if there is a built in driver for the Marvell 88E8056/88E8001 Gigabit LAN controller in the kernel of the distro you wish to use. That is the LAN controller/chip in the P5Q boards.

    The sound should work. I don't know about anything else. I think if you want wifi, it's better to use a card or a USB wireless adapter but that's just me.

    I think either the Gigabyte P45 or Asus P45 boards are the one to get since they'll all have pretty much one or the other LAN chips and it's only a matter of time until Linux distro developers get drivers for them. The question is how well will each one (respectively) work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panix View Post
    I think it depends if there is a built in driver for the Marvell 88E8056/88E8001 Gigabit LAN controller in the kernel of the distro you wish to use. That is the LAN controller/chip in the P5Q boards.

    The sound should work. I don't know about anything else. I think if you want wifi, it's better to use a card or a USB wireless adapter but that's just me.

    I think either the Gigabyte P45 or Asus P45 boards are the one to get since they'll all have pretty much one or the other LAN chips and it's only a matter of time until Linux distro developers get drivers for them. The question is how well will each one (respectively) work.
    As I told in my previous post, everything worked "out of the box" with P5Q3 Deluxe/Wifi-AP, including Marvell 88E8056/88E8001 controllers under Debian Lenny.
    Now, I'm just looking for the wifi chipset name to know how to install it (kernel drivers or proprio drivers.)

    Thank you for your contribution.

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    Ok ppl, I finally installed wifi properly thanks to http://wlety.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?id=200

    So, to summarize, this card works perfectly under linux without using any window driver.

    Thanks for everyone's post in this thread.

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