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    Default Intel On Rebuilding The X.Org Linux Desktop

    Phoronix: Intel On Rebuilding The X.Org Linux Desktop

    At FOSDEM 2009 in Keith Packard's talk on the rebuilt Linux desktop, he shared the progress made in composited 3D, monitor auto-plugging, 2D/3D/media shared objects, kernel mode-setting, and kernel-based 2D drawing. Allowing these problems to be addressed was the Graphics Execution Manager for kernel memory management. The Graphics Execution Manager was used instead of TTM (which we talked about several times before at Phoron

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=13477

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    This blip.tv-Flash-crap sucks; why cannot we have a free video format, or at least MPEG4, via ordinary HTTP/FTP/younameit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by colo View Post
    This blip.tv-Flash-crap sucks; why cannot we have a free video format, or at least MPEG4, via ordinary HTTP/FTP/younameit?
    Because I want to click and view without prior setup of voodoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealNC View Post
    Because I want to click and view without prior setup of voodoo.
    for many people setting up flash under Linux is a voodoo

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    blip.tv allows you to download the original files too.

    As an nvidia user, I am wondering what exactly are they rebuilding. Fixing their drivers so that similarly specced hardware can perform the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vadi View Post
    As an nvidia user, I am wondering what exactly are they rebuilding. Fixing their drivers so that similarly specced hardware can perform the same?
    Fixing the whole architecture. NVidia performs as well as they do because they invented their own stuff instead of using the archaic and broken X.Org APIs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vadi View Post
    blip.tv allows you to download the original files too.
    Good to know! This in not normal. I found the links, thanks. If anyone wants, I can create torrent files for the videos.

    edit: don't know how and why this post appears in this thread, but it applies here, too. So anyway...
    Last edited by bugmenot; 02-09-2009 at 04:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vadi View Post
    As an nvidia user, I am wondering what exactly are they rebuilding. Fixing their drivers so that similarly specced hardware can perform the same?
    Intel is pushing for realtime ray tracing as the next "Next Gen" which simply won't work with their current system, so it would make sense that they'd at least attempt to fix their rather bad solution on the platform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vadi View Post
    blip.tv allows you to download the original files too.
    Then why not link to them, for the benefit of people who don't run non-Free software in their main browser? Part of the point of having non-flash vids is defeated by having the only links to them _inside the flash content_.

    I don't want any stupid plugins in my main browser, since I want to be able to have it running for weeks at a time. Flash tends to crash my browser, and I _HATE_ that. So much so that I only have flash set up in seamonkey, not firefox. (via nspluginwrapper, since at least it's AMD64 seamonkey, not a 32bit chroot anymore.)

    Besides the stability thing, flash likes to grab the sound device. (I like to avoid crappy software resampling to 48kHz, so I avoid pulseaudio and have mplayer set up to default to ao=alsa:device=hw, rather than the default pcm, which goes through stupid dmix that resamples even when only one thing is playing. Working around the crappy state of Linux audio is another reason to avoid plugins in a browser don't want to have to restart.)

    Quote Originally Posted by mattst88
    Just tried to watch the video of Eric's presentation.

    Thank you for killing my ability to hear. Why haven't you fixed this video? If nothing more, remove it.
    Me too. There are brief snatches where the mic wasn't loose or something, where you can hear a few sentences of Eric's talk. The mic levels are well below the full-scale noise, so if you turn it up to hear the talk, then you'll be blasted with clipping as soon as the plug comes loose again. I'm going to try downloading it (which is apparently possible, yay) and playing it through mplayer with -af something_clever.

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    My ears bleed.

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