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    Phoronix: RadeonHD Driver Takes A Blow In Novell Layoffs

    Due to the tough economic conditions around the world, Novell last month began slashing some of their workforce. With that reduction, a good percentage of the paid OpenSuSE developers were laid off...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzEwNg

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    Well, it's sad to see such a prominent developer leave the community. I would hope that he would choose to continue his work, at least on the development side.

    Otherwise I think this is just one more example of where RadeonHD went wrong. To rely on a single corporation is just suicidal. Especially when that single corporation is out to get you. I knew from the beginning RadeonHD was doomed. It relied exclusively on Novell. And it is a fact that Novell is out to screw the open source community.

    Hopefully we can all use this as an excuse to --FINALLY-- consolidate the development of an ATi X driver onto one project. Instead of having one driver that's good with this thing, and another that is good with that thing. Lets get it all consolidated into one project that is good with all things....

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    Quote Originally Posted by duby229 View Post
    Well, it's sad to see such a prominent developer leave the community. I would hope that he would choose to continue his work, at least on the development side.
    From what he has said to me, don't count on it. Unless he ends up working for another major corporation as an X developer.

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    I hope he continues his work on the proper Radeon driver.

    Due to limited access now to ATI hardware, it's unlikely that we will see any future work from him in the RadeonHD driver.
    We can always donate ATI hardware and/or cash if he needs it
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    Quote Originally Posted by duby229 View Post
    And it is a fact that Novell is out to screw the open source community.
    Oh yes, Novell certainly are a crafty bunch of miscreants. They contribute to the kernel, actually, they're they second biggest contributor behind RedHat and they're ahead of IBM.

    What dastardly deeds could they be planning?

    They contribute to KDE and still have 2 developers working on RadeonHD.

    Pricks!

    They're sure out to screw the open source community!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnycat26 View Post
    They're sure out to screw the open source community!
    Actually, I don't think they're out to screw the community, per se. But with the recent remarks they've made about Linux, the pact they signed with MS, and the risks they take doing things for "interoperability" with Windows stuff (i.e. Mono...) by doing stuff that is very likely to be patented (and while Bilski will eventually clean out most of the risks in question- the bulk of their portfolio is on protocols, and other similar software "patents" which CAN'T be patented per Bilski...) which means they're opening up anyone using it to the risk of something like TomTom is now facing...they're not quite sane either.

    They're not our friend like you make them out to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svartalf View Post
    Actually, I don't think they're out to screw the community, per se. But with the recent remarks they've made about Linux, the pact they signed with MS, and the risks they take doing things for "interoperability" with Windows stuff (i.e. Mono...) by doing stuff that is very likely to be patented (and while Bilski will eventually clean out most of the risks in question- the bulk of their portfolio is on protocols, and other similar software "patents" which CAN'T be patented per Bilski...) which means they're opening up anyone using it to the risk of something like TomTom is now facing...they're not quite sane either.

    They're not our friend like you make them out to be.
    They're not our enemy like you make them out to be.

    Mono is the pet project of Miguel, and I really don't get his reasoning behind it. Then again, I don't get gnome either.

    Didn't redhat sign a similar deal with Microsoft? Are they the enemy too?

    Fact is, Novell has been very good to Linux. I know, for a fact, that they've pushed Linux into places/companies where RedHat has failed.


    Edit: BTW -- If you don't like Novell, you could always, ya know, just remove all of the Novell contributed code from the Kernel/QT/KDE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnycat26 View Post
    They're not our enemy like you make them out to be.
    Oh, I didn't make them out to be an enemy. They're very seriously confused and aren't helping things any.

    Mono is the pet project of Miguel, and I really don't get his reasoning behind it. Then again, I don't get gnome either.
    If you don't get it, why do you diminish the whole thing? It's a problem, just like the deal was. If there's patent overlap, it's certain within the .Net stuff. Why bring that upon yourself?

    Didn't redhat sign a similar deal with Microsoft? Are they the enemy too?
    No. Red Hat signed something that talked to interoperability, but did NOT discuss patents or licensing thereof. It was a, "We're going to ensure that our Virtualization solutions are able to run each other's OS right" deal. Novell signed a deal where they indicated that there was valid patents within Linux that needed licensing from MS- which isn't a foregone conclusion, nor is it helpful when MS will not explicitly indicate what 200+ patents are infringed upon so that a discussion can ensue on the subject.

    Fact is, Novell has been very good to Linux. I know, for a fact, that they've pushed Linux into places/companies where RedHat has failed.
    They've also been very harmful to it with recent actions. I know that is also a fact.

    Please, quit making them out to be saints (which is what you're actually doing here...)- I'm not vilifying them, mind, but they've done a lot of VERY problematic things over the years. Good deeds are important, but they do NOT remove bad deeds done in recent times.

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    From what he has said to me, don't count on it. Unless he ends up working for another major corporation as an X developer.
    even nowadays, such an experienced developer should not have big trouble finding a new job.

    some company is bound to hire him sooner or later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshi314 View Post
    even nowadays, such an experienced developer should not have big trouble finding a new job.

    some company is bound to hire him sooner or later.
    Yes, especially given his relative fame.

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