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    Default Red Hat's Plymouth Sees New Work

    Phoronix: Red Hat's Plymouth Sees New Work

    Not a lot of work has gone into Red Hat's Plymouth project since the release of Fedora 10, but now in the middle of the development cycle of Fedora 11 we are seeing some new work emerge. Plymouth is a boot splash program that leverages kernel mode-setting to provide a rich, flicker-free boot experience...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzExOA

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    For some reason I read "Red Hat's Plymouth sees New York" the first time...
    It was only after I read the article that I realized it is "New Work", not "New York" :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeanPaul145 View Post
    For some reason I read "Red Hat's Plymouth sees New York" the first time...
    It was only after I read the article that I realized it is "New Work", not "New York" :P
    same here...
    when i read the descritption of the new plugin i thought, when is all this supposed to happen when we are working so hard to have insant-on computers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pfanne View Post
    same here...
    when i read the descritption of the new plugin i thought, when is all this supposed to happen when we are working so hard to have insant-on computers...
    I'm thinking it will be like an extended lightning flash then, much like the mode setting when it's done outside the kernel. Only then, the flash consists of nice gfx

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    Atm there's not really a lot of documentation out there (I've read doc in the git tree), so excuse me, if I ask:

    Which files exactly would one have to tune to get it to work with let's say Debian?


    I'd like to give it a try (in fact I've got modesetting working here nearly without issues) but I realize that changing the boot-process of a system doesn't seem to be an easy task (at least if you are not involved into such stuff).


    Are there any plans for Debian?
    (No, I'm not asking about Ubuntu and their upstart.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AliBaba View Post
    Atm there's not really a lot of documentation out there (I've read doc in the git tree), so excuse me, if I ask:

    Which files exactly would one have to tune to get it to work with let's say Debian?


    I'd like to give it a try (in fact I've got modesetting working here nearly without issues) but I realize that changing the boot-process of a system doesn't seem to be an easy task (at least if you are not involved into such stuff).


    Are there any plans for Debian?
    (No, I'm not asking about Ubuntu and their upstart.)
    Well you'll need a kernel and graphics card that plays nice with KMS. This basically means you'll need the latest kernel and either an intel or ati graphics card.

    Upstart is actually a replacement for the SystemV init system. Plymouth is more parallel to ubuntu's Usplash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AliBaba View Post
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    Are there any plans for Debian?
    (No, I'm not asking about Ubuntu and their upstart.)
    One Debian Developer have expressed an interest in packaging it;
    http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=506899

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pfanne View Post
    same here...
    when i read the descritption of the new plugin i thought, when is all this supposed to happen when we are working so hard to have insant-on computers...
    We won't have instant-on computers for a long time unless you are resuming from suspend. It's mostly a matter on what you want to look at during the twenty or so seconds during the boot imo. It's not like you couldn't get rid of the graphical boot things in Fedora trivially.

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    Ideally, the transition from the boot splash animation to the login screen should be as seamless as possible.

    Will KMS utilize more graphics modes so that we don't have, for example, a 1024x768 splash screen followed by a 1280x800 X Server login screen?

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    Well KMS certainly is seemless, but my understanding is the display modes don't necessarily need to change.

    One really nice change will be running X without giving it root priviledges.

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