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    Okay, let's try this one more time.

    nvidia (the blob from nVidia) is superior in terms of features and stability. It still crashes all the time, is buggy, doesn't support esoteric X features correctly, etc.

    XvBA is dead in the water, as far as desktop support is concerned. AMD crafted it for enterprise clients, not desktop clients. You all will have to wait until somebody introduces VDPAU for Radeons in the open-source driver, which brings me to...

    ...Contribution. The open-source driver is completely fueled by contributions. We have the documentation, we have the expertise. We only lack manpower. If you want drivers so damn bad, why not contribute? I learned how to write graphics drivers out of pure hatred for fglrx; if I can do it, surely you all can too.

    Finally, fglrx is for FireGLs first, Radeons second. It's an enterprise driver, for enterprise Linux. The big targets here are SUSE, RHEL, and Ubuntu LTS; not Gentoo, Arch, or name-your-distro-here.

    tl;dr: Read the post and stop relying on tl;dr.

    ~ C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by val-gaav View Post
    Sure he isn't. Linus didn't sign that for whatever the reason he had for not doing so. Maybe he was pragmatic or wanted to remain neutral in a way.

    though see this earlier post for Linus opinion about blobs:
    http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=78
    And the source before anyone gets paranoid:
    http://lwn.net/1999/0211/a/lt-binary.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by MostAwesomeDude View Post
    Okay, let's try this one more time.

    nvidia (the blob from nVidia) is superior in terms of features and stability. It still crashes all the time, is buggy, doesn't support esoteric X features correctly, etc.

    XvBA is dead in the water, as far as desktop support is concerned. AMD crafted it for enterprise clients, not desktop clients. You all will have to wait until somebody introduces VDPAU for Radeons in the open-source driver, which brings me to...

    ...Contribution. The open-source driver is completely fueled by contributions. We have the documentation, we have the expertise. We only lack manpower. If you want drivers so damn bad, why not contribute? I learned how to write graphics drivers out of pure hatred for fglrx; if I can do it, surely you all can too.

    Finally, fglrx is for FireGLs first, Radeons second. It's an enterprise driver, for enterprise Linux. The big targets here are SUSE, RHEL, and Ubuntu LTS; not Gentoo, Arch, or name-your-distro-here.

    tl;dr: Read the post and stop relying on tl;dr.

    ~ C.
    I have a feeling that I will not play HL2 any time soon on F11 with my new HD4850 *time to re-install winXP :-(*

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaestroMaus View Post
    I second that. My laptop keeps making the screen a mess when it is on battery...
    Yep wishing that I went for the 9800M GS right now instead of the 4850 mobility.

    Video playback via mplayer froze the machine again requiring alt+prtscr boot. (RSEINUB)

    Seems to happen most often after awaking from sleep, Ubuntu 9.04 64b, compiz/beryl disabled(always freezes from sleep if it's on, and Im not even going to bother testing it w/9.6... oh for at least lush green quality drivers instead of the bloody mess that we have...)

    wine is still hosed by the wonderful drivers as well... I really wish that AMD would get their ---- together instead of moaning about opensource as I'd MUCH rather just have decent quality drivers and don't give a rats --- about their being open or not. Its much more like AMD is hoping/expecting OSS to save their bacon rather than actually doing the heavy lifting themselves.
    MSI GT725-074US:
    Intel Core 2 Duo P8600, 4GB DDR2-800, 320GB 7200RPM WDC WD3200BEKT-22F3T0, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850 512MB GDDR3, 8x Super multi DVD+/-RW, 1680x1050 (17"), 9 cell battery

    Ubuntu 8.10 x86-64 (current updates) catalyst 9.3
    Windows Vista Home Premium 32b SP1 (current update) still on shipped catalyst(8.12 I think, MSI packed -- lazy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MostAwesomeDude View Post
    ...Contribution. The open-source driver is completely fueled by contributions. We have the documentation, we have the expertise. We only lack manpower. If you want drivers so damn bad, why not contribute? I learned how to write graphics drivers out of pure hatred for fglrx; if I can do it, surely you all can too.
    Some people have a life. Also, not everyone works as a developer. Some people work at the bank, others at the postal office. Some are teachers... You can hardly ask the dude who works at Pizza Hut to go learn Unix systems programming in C if he can't even understand a Hello World program in Visual Basic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E.Dulen View Post
    I have a feeling that I will not play HL2 any time soon on F11 with my new HD4850 *time to re-install winXP :-(*
    Downgrade to Fedora 10, compile wine-git and HL2 with catalyst 9.6 works great with radeon 4850 here all the DX9 effects on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blindfrog View Post
    Downgrade to Fedora 10, compile wine-git and HL2 with catalyst 9.6 works great with radeon 4850 here all the DX9 effects on!
    I've got better solution. Throw out Radeon and buy Geforce. You'll save your time downgrading to Fedora 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealNC View Post
    Some people have a life. Also, not everyone works as a developer. Some people work at the bank, others at the postal office. Some are teachers... You can hardly ask the dude who works at Pizza Hut to go learn Unix systems programming in C if he can't even understand a Hello World program in Visual Basic.
    Still, they complain, which is understandable, but some even say that they'd pay AMD from their wallets for better drivers. Why don't they pay the developers that work on the FOSS drivers?

    It's true that not everyone can contribute to the driver (hell, I'm an experienced programmer and still can't say I could help with the FOSS drivers), but it's also true that AMD never said their cards would work wonders on linux.

    Remember, people; AMD never made you buy their product.
    Not happy? Help with FOSS.
    Can't? Pay someone who can.
    Can't pay? Wait.
    Can't wait? Your bad, you should've bought a well supported card on linux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdias View Post
    Can't wait? Your bad, you should've bought a well supported card on linux.
    The first sane thing you've written here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSLW View Post
    I've got better solution. Throw out Radeon and buy Geforce. You'll save your time downgrading to Fedora 10
    But I bought my card just 4 days ago and now I must spend more cash on nVidia card , the cheapest solution for me would be to install winXP
    Last edited by E.Dulen; 06-16-2009 at 01:28 PM.

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