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    Default Future of Linux gaming

    Quote Originally Posted by Threedays View Post
    Gaming has vastly improved both in wine and linux native games! It wont be long before developers wont have any excuses not to port games to both platforms.
    Unfortunately, closed sourced pc gaming suffers, too, from console gaming. So, the phrase "both platforms" indeed needs modification.

    Here are some data from http://www.vgchartz.com

    PC
    Pos/Sales/Release Date/Last Update/Game
    1 The Sims
    /16.08m /31st Jan 00 /26th Jun 09/Maxis
    2 World of Warcraft
    /11.84m /23rd Nov 04 /20th Jun 09/Blizzard Entertainment
    3 StarCraft
    /11.18m /01st Apr 98 /28th Jul 09/Blizzard Entertainment
    4 Myst
    /8.03m /01st Jan 95 /26th Jun 09/Broderbund
    5 Half-Life
    /7.85m /19th Nov 98 /26th Jun 09/Sierra Entertainment
    6 World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade
    /6.42m /16th Jan 07 /20th Jun 09/Blizzard Entertainment

    XBOX
    Pos/Sales/Release Date/Last Update/Game
    1 Halo 3
    /10.10m /25th Sep 07 /23rd Jun 09/Microsoft
    2 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
    /7.71m /05th Nov 07 /23rd Jun 09/Activision
    3 Grand Theft Auto IV
    /7.19m /29th Apr 08 /23rd Jun 09/Rockstar Games
    4 Gears of War
    /5.90m /07th Nov 06 /23rd Jun 09/Microsoft
    5 Call of Duty: World at War
    /5.82m /10th Nov 08 /20th Jun 09/Activision

    PS3
    Pos/Sales/Release Date/Last Update/Game
    1 Grand Theft Auto IV
    /5.80m /29th Apr 08 /26th Jun 09/Rockstar Games
    2 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
    /4.50m /05th Nov 07 /20th Jun 09/Activision
    3 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
    /4.16m /12th Jun 08 /28th Jun 09/Konami
    4 Resistance: Fall of Man
    /3.61m /14th Nov 06 /20th Jun 09/Sony Computer Entertainment
    5 Call of Duty: World at War
    /3.49m /10th Nov 08 /20th Jun 09/Activision

    PS2
    Pos/Sales/Release Date/Last Update/Game
    1 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
    /18.02m /26th Oct 04 /01st Jul 09/Rockstar Games
    2 Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec
    /14.89m /09th Jul 01 /07th Jul 09/Sony Computer Entertainment
    3 Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
    /14.20m /28th Oct 02 /20th Jun 09/Rockstar Games
    4 Grand Theft Auto III
    /11.60m /23rd Oct 01 /20th Jun 09/Rockstar Games
    5 Gran Turismo 4
    /10.36m /22nd Feb 05 /20th Jun 09/Sony Computer Entertainment

    Wii
    Pos/Sales/Release Date/Last Update/Game
    1 Wii Sports
    /47.29m /19th Nov 06 /20th Jun 09/Nintendo
    2 Wii Play
    /24.07m /12th Feb 07 /20th Jun 09/Nintendo
    3 Wii Fit
    /21.70m /21st May 08 /20th Jun 09/Nintendo
    4 Mario Kart Wii
    /17.21m /27th Apr 08 /20th Jun 09/Nintendo
    5 Super Smash Bros. Brawl
    /8.58m /09th Mar 08 /20th Jun 09/Nintendo
    See how the aging titles still dominate the pc chart? It is not good, for Linux gaming either.




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    i've read twice your post, still i don't really get your point. the data that you quoted make no sense to me... next time please enlighten us with more comprehensible infos and your point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Setlec View Post
    i've read twice your post, still i don't really get your point. the data that you quoted make no sense to me... next time please enlighten us with more comprehensible infos and your point!
    i second that. Im lost.

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    Wii Sports is funny.
    If every new PC came with Barbie Horse Adventures, Barbie Horse Adventures would outsell Wii Sports by a long shot.

    I bet MS Solitaire has outsold Wii Sports too.

    On topic, I'm confused too. These numbers don't really related to Linux gaming. Xbox sales can't really be compared to Linux sales.

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    I think the point was that console game sales were a lot higher than PC game sales... not counting Barbie Horse Adventures, of course.

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    hmmm PC games, imo, are invincible by its complexity and interactivity over lan/internet. It's true to say that on Console you can play up to 4 ppl in the same time, but the console games don't give much pleasure/fun. Well that's my opinion (i've only played 10 times on different consoles).

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    Quote Originally Posted by L33F3R View Post


    Originally Posted by Setlec View Post
    i've read twice your post, still i don't really get your point. the data that you quoted make no sense to me... next time please enlighten us with more comprehensible infos and your point!
    i second that. Im lost.

    Ok, sorry for understating.

    Pos/Sales/Release Date/Last Update/Game

    Pos is for position in "game sales" world wide.
    Sales is how many copies were actually sold
    Release date is... the date when the game was released
    Last update is when the information was last updated
    Game is a misnomer for Publisher (my fault).

    So

    1 The Sims
    /16.08m /31st Jan 00 /26th Jun 09/Maxis

    refers to the game The Sims with 16.08 million games sold. The game sold more than any other pc game even if released nine years ago. But, it is outsold by Wii Sports which was released in 2006, and has since then sold 47 million copies.

    The data shows that the lion part of the game business revenues are today made in the console arena, rather than for the pc (or the mac). I didn't include the sales figured for the Nintendo DS or the PSP... That does not bode good for closed sourced Linux gaming, as it largely depends on the same hardware as pc games.

    Not being too simplistic, I don't think of this as the demise of pc gaming, or Linux gaming. I just wanted too highlight that porting pc games to Linux today probably is not as prioritized as it could have been or indeed was ten years ago (think id Software). The landscape has changed.

    I'm happy with Urban Terror, Nexuiz, etc. But, YES, I would love to see prime titles like Batman Arkham Asylum etc showing up on Linux too. When will we see:

    for pc/mac/linux/wii/xbox/ps3

    ???
    Last edited by sabriah; 09-09-2009 at 02:53 AM.

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    that's not something new tbh. Console market has grown since middle 90s... linux gaming quite "new", if i may say so, compared to others gaming platforms of course...

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    yea, kuz people steal more on PC. way easier. Xbox has its problems now, not that easy but my friend makes quite the coin off mod consoles. Still significantly easier to use a PC. Sometimes its easier to steal it for PC then to actually go and buy it for PC...

    Do note for the Wii, a Wii owner usually will buy most of the games for the wii, just because so few actually exist . And wii sports comes in the Wii bundle so the 41m is kinda, well, different.

    I personally game on a PC because if i want any chance of gaming with people over the age of 12, that's my best bet. Who is going to buy more games? Prolly the parents for their children. The numbers make clear sense. This can be further backed up by displaying how so many shooters are on console platforms. Anyone who has tried both knows that fixed speed crosshairs are lame. its all children.

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