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    Quote Originally Posted by deanjo View Post
    OK, I love wikipedia quotes but really what are you trying to prove? I never said that bumpgate never happened. In fact I fully acknowledged it. Ask yourself this, why did Apple switch to Nvidia chipsets for the CPU's that nvidia can make chipsets for? I'm simply stating that ATI has had their share of hardware issues as well and over a long series of macs more ATI cards have been replaced then nvidia cards. This still remains true despite the bumpgate fiasco.
    i can not find any critik @ wikipedia on amd cards: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_R700

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_%28GPU_family%29

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_R600

    i can not find any critik @ wikipedia on amd cards

    @wikipedia only nvidia fail faill failll fail fail fail

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qaridarium View Post
    i can not find any critik @ wikipedia on amd cards: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_R700

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_%28GPU_family%29

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_R600

    i can not find any critik @ wikipedia on amd cards

    @wikipedia only nvidia fail faill failll fail fail fail

    I can surely add those in if you want.

    Such as this article:

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/ATI-R...ng-94081.shtml

    http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...ati-3870s-fail
    Last edited by deanjo; 11-04-2009 at 03:58 AM.

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    To cut in here: if Apple didn't provide sufficient cooling for the graphics chip, that is no fault of ATI/AMD. If it was a manufacturing process error, that's different, but all hardware comes with various specifications with regards to operating boundaries - now if Apple stuck to those specs, again it's the fault of ATI/AMD, but poor air flow resulting in overheating....that one falls on Apple.
    Note that my comments here have little to do with nvidia vs ati - I'm just pointing out that the failing ATI cards linked in this discussion are more the fault of Apple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirv View Post
    To cut in here: if Apple didn't provide sufficient cooling for the graphics chip, that is no fault of ATI/AMD. If it was a manufacturing process error, that's different, but all hardware comes with various specifications with regards to operating boundaries - now if Apple stuck to those specs, again it's the fault of ATI/AMD, but poor air flow resulting in overheating....that one falls on Apple.
    Note that my comments here have little to do with nvidia vs ati - I'm just pointing out that the failing ATI cards linked in this discussion are more the fault of Apple.
    It was a stock ATI cooler on the card and the Nvidia cards had no issue with the cooling in the same systems. This is why Apple had to update firmware to the ATI cards compensate with a much higher fanspeed on the ATI cards, who were manufactured by ATI for Apple using the exact same specs that Nvidia were presented with.

    This isn't a one time only thing, you can see many ATI graphics updates over the course of years that Macs have featured ATI cards in their systems. A firmware update is rarely needed for a nvidia card.
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    Qaridarium and deanjo, please cut the crap. There is no point in hijacking this thread to start a childish nvidia vs. ati flamewar.

    Go back on topic: uvd (sorta) useable on ati hardware now.

    Personally I'm glad we are finally seeing some results. Hopefully we'll see more improvements (which, looking at the responses here, are necessary). Hoping for support of older plain UVD hardware was well, that would show AMD cares for their customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deanjo View Post
    From the first link:
    "What is interesting is that these cards are not the reference design made by ATI."
    So people change ATI's design....and suddenly it's ATI's fault?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deanjo View Post
    As a side note, an ATI card was also responsible for killing a dog. Long story short, Apple sent out a replacement ATI card, the courier rang the bell, nobody was home, so he left it in the dog pen (at the owners request). Dog ate the packaging and card and choked on it.
    Darwin Award for that dog
    LMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeoLinuX View Post
    Darwin Award for that dog
    LMAO
    Ya, we sent him another card at no charge but unfortunately replacing "man's best friend" doesn't have a SKU number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirv View Post
    From the first link:
    "What is interesting is that these cards are not the reference design made by ATI."
    So people change ATI's design....and suddenly it's ATI's fault?
    o yes...

    Nvidia=FAIL

    Apple=FAIL

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    This seems appropriate.


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